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Who Can Tell Me About This Postmark, Chinese On A Japan Stamp, What Year, Month, Date And City?

 
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Posted 03/20/2021   5:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add postalpicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Who can tell me about this postmark, Chinese on a Japan stamp, What year, month, date and city?


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Posted 03/20/2021   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a standard Japanese type cancel.
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Posted 03/20/2021   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a telegraph, money order or telephone cancel. All text in the postmark is read from right to left. In the first line is the province name. In the second line is the town name. The part below the bisect will indicate if the cancel is postal or a non-postal service offered by the post office (telegraph, telephone, money order, or ?)
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Posted 03/20/2021   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Text reads top to bottom, actually. The bottom center reads post and telephone office, which I thought meant dual use for the cancel.

Top center reads 31st year (Meiji 31) = 1898. Top right is 6th month = June. Top left reads 27th day = 27th.

Someone else will have to identify the city/town which is the bottom right characters. I believe the bottom left should be the specific office name.
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Posted 05/14/2021   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Correction
This is neither a telegraph, telephone nor dual use cancel.

The office type is as stated, but researching this further found that this type was used for receipting money order business/charges. So, you have a non-mail/nonpostal cancel here. Still collectible.
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Posted 06/29/2021   03:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi postalpicker and all,

This is a Japanese datestamp - Bisected Circle type datestamp, vertical version (listed as"JBC-2" in Handbook of Japanese Postmarks, 2008). The structure of the datestamp is depicted in the following image .

This JBC-2 is further subcategorized into 3 (three) subtypes, and yours is the small format, "Month" type used from Meiji 27 (1894) to Meiji 36 (1903).



The date is June 27, Meiji 31 (1898). Post office is "Ecchu Fukuno postal & telegraph office", which is now Toyama prefecture, Fukuno city. This is a very nice example of a full stroke, sock-on-the-nose datestamp so please admire its beauty !!!

Further information:

The postmark JBC-2 was introduced in 1885 and was, as mentioned by other expert members, originally used for receipt of money order charges, where the postmark was applied directly onto the receipt document itself.

Since 1890, payment of money order charges by postage stamps were permitted, and since then we can find this postmark on postage stamps for obliteration.

Since 1894, this postmark was also used for postal savings. Furthermore, since March 1990 the payment of postal savings by affixing postage stamps to dedicated postal saving sheets were introduced, and this postmark was extensively used to obliterate the stamps on postal saving sheets.



Hope this helps you !

Greetings from Osaka, Japan
- unechan
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Edited by unechan - 06/29/2021 04:52 am
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Posted 06/29/2021   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Unechan,
great to see you return
I soak up all your information....Thanks
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Edited by rod222 - 06/29/2021 08:25 am
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