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ID #271 Grant 6c Watermark

 
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Posted 03/25/2021   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bridge to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I like some opinions in this watermark. Is it possibly USIR?
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Posted 03/25/2021   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The I or the R have to be clearly visible; in this case it's much more likely to be a P and a U.
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Posted 03/25/2021   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wkusau to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The I or the R have to be clearly visible; in this case it's much more likely to be a P and a U.


REVCOLLECTOR, I am having a hard time understanding how the P and U in USPS can be adjacent to each other.
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Posted 03/25/2021   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The watermarks can be in any direction; it could also be an S and U.
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Posted 03/25/2021   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Like revcollector says, your watermark as shown reads backwards from right to left. The P would then be straight along the part of the top shown. The left watermark letter is rounded at the visible corner so it can only be an S. See scan here:
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/M...ermarks.html
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Posted 03/26/2021   08:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bridge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the responses. Here's more to view that may help or not. Just how thick is the thin side of the "U"?
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Posted 03/26/2021   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chevelle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First, Garfield is shown on Scott No. 271, not Grant. Second, would you be willing to purchase the stamp shown as Scott No. 271a based on the scans you show?
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Posted 03/26/2021   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bridge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the correction. Good question. Because of the value and a bit of uncertainty, probably not. It'd have to be certified.
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Posted 03/26/2021   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Garfield vs Grant: It would be good to post a scan of the front side of your stamp to complete the record.

Second, I have drawn 2 additional boxes in black to propose other alternatives involving the lower leg of an I or P, instead of the U.



IMO, to prove/disprove any solution would require exact size overlays to confirm both letter shape and spacing.
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Posted 03/26/2021   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating.

I note the OP drew a red line, with a bend at the bottom.
as a neophyte I would have thought def. a "U"
Autosuggestion.

But as John reveals, it has to be straight.

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Posted 03/26/2021   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To take another line (pun intended) on the shape of the letters, lets look at the interior line of the P, R, and S loop.

Portion of USPS:


USIR:


Note the interior loop line of the P and R has a symmetric taper at both the top and bottom approaching the outer loop, while the interior loop of the S tapers only at the top and remains distanced across the center of the letter:

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Posted 03/26/2021   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I would never purchase a Scott 271a, used or unused without a cert.
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Posted 03/26/2021   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bridge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This proves that many heads are better than one. Thanks so much for all the informative input. I can now put this to bed and move on to something else.
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