Another Ebay Listing With Inkjet Printed Rare Stamps Going For Thousands

Well, if those bidders believe they are truly getting $27000 in CV of stamps, no doubt they feel they are getting a bargain.

And they certainly look "clean" to me, as in nicely cleaned of cancellations & some nice clean gum added.

PPG - Hopefully the magic button did work. It has not worked for myself and others when used hundreds of times on cartel lots as well as other scammers listings. That is to say hundreds that I reported. Likely thousands with others counted.

In fact I have given ebay evidence of multiple sales of multi-thousand dollar sales of the same material between multiple cartel accounts. Evidence of faked stamps as well and altered stamps. Lots of detailed evidence and the response was....silence. The cartel still operates on ebay even with the mastermind (giggle) in prison. Same for spurious listings from upstanding sellers like Anthony's.

Try and work your magic on some Ryle/Cartel lots and report back. It would be the first time in years that ebay gave a hoot.

Cheers!

PS: If it were that simple to clean up the ebay dumpster fire by using "the button" don't you think that it would be cleaned up?

I doubt that the higher dollar 'bids' are real, very few people would be stupid enough to drop that kind of money on this kind of listing. I assume some of the lower bids might be real but the fact that he as made it 'private' is probably hiding the fact that he is using multiple ebay accounts to run up the bids.

If by chance some brain dead person actually sends him money (few people are that dumb), the account will immediately be closed and he will make off the cash. The buyer may try to declare 'not as described' and I doubt that ebay would eat that size loss. If they can't grab the money back from the seller they would tell the buyer to go pound sand. ebay is plenty willing to eat small amounts to pitch their marketing ' ebay is safe' but I have had two reports that they did not pay off larger sums when sellers scam like this.
Don

The bottom line is the lot was pulled by ebay, not the seller. Something moved someone at ebay to take the action. Why now and not in other cases? It could be that ebay takes counterfeit US stamp sales seriously and actually enforces their rule such is not allowed.

That said, misidentification, repairs, quality issues and the like are not as clear cut as as counterfeiting.

To avoid the problems of description ebay could require a new (within 3 month) certificate for any stamps sold. Sellers and buyers would flee en masse if that occurred as buyers would not pay the prices needed nor would sellers get certificates. We can't have it both ways so what is the answer?

This tread already has one seller thinking he deserves 62.5% of catalog for his material and is complaining he has to compete with others selling the same at 24.8% of catalog. That is the upside and downside of competition when the competitors are not coming from equal circumstances and the buyers are just measuring value for the dollar spent.

In this case it is a matter of buyers thinking that they can score off of a sellers ignorance and the seller betting that the bidders are ignorant and greedy and will take the bait. Not a pretty sight.

As far as catalog value percentages go, it is no way to collect. If you want to build a collection based upon "scoring" everything at an arbitrary low percentage of catalog you will end up with an assembly of broken and misidentified material that you overpaid for anyway.

ebay does not take US counterfeit stamps any more seriously than anything else. Unless of course you are listing something on the "bad" list like a Dr. Seuss book or a Cuba stamp. THAT will get immediate action.

Many of us reported at once and got their attention?

We've tried that experiment of mass reporting several times. It was a complete failure using the "report item." Once in a while the "right" person" sees the listing and a change or delisting is made. Who that person is I no have idea. Lucky. Until I see more evidence or word from ebay I still consider the "black hole" alive. I have years of negative results personally and working with SCF members.

@parcelpostguy Hey woah woah, we all have to make a living somehow! The only reason I was going to charge 64% of CV was because I found there to be only one other listing for the same stamp at that same price on ebay so I thought why not. If the guy selling at 20 something % is simply liquidating his buddies stock cheap and quick, or is actually being an honest seller with apparently zero overhead costs, more luck to him

"I know nothing about stamp collecting and cannot attest to the genuine or not of these stamps" has been added to the listing and now is relisted at an opening of $1.95.

Like a bad penny...


@oldboldandbrash I was trying to be careful in my comparison of sellers mentioning the catalog percentage comparison between two sellers. I was not saying one or the other was inappropriately priced.

But no matter how "fair" the 60+% maybe, it is a tough sale when the same is offered by another at 20+%. It really doesn't matter why for one seller 20+% is fine; blow out of someone else's material, stolen stuff being fenced, unknowledgeable or uninformed seller, in the case of Forever Stamps perhaps counterfeit, or as 51Studebaker said about himself sold low cause I thought I was dying and wife needed money.


No matter the reason if both items are equal, the 60+% will not sell until after the 20+%. As a seller you can control your prices, but not the prices (or material) of another seller on ebay. Likewise buyers can only control the prices and items they try to buy. It is that uncontrolled seller that kills business plan models when one is trying to make a living. Kind of similar to just opening a large restaurant in February 2020 and not including "pandemic" in the business model and income estimates. While a losing buyer lives to spend another day, that is not necessarily true for a losing seller.

Contacting the seller directly sometimes does the trick. The black hole no.

The seller is still offering free shipping. Maybe I'll put in a bid for $6.50 just in hope I win so the seller loses money on shipping. Then with luck it will be lost in the mail and my six fifty refunded.

Link to "new" US collection with revised description which presumably now makes ebay more comfortable even though it is the same as the old larcenous listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333971776540

Cheers!

Possibility. Several contact seller complaints. Newbie seller was unsure how to cancel the auction after it started. Called ebay who closed the auction and advised the mandatory disclaimer.

Looks like it's been cancelled again.