Help With A Saxony Stamp

So I was placing some Saxony stamps and noticed the below middle stamp in the album. If I am correct, I think its a Sc10, 1 ng, Type A4. But in the catalog the color called for is black, rose. Mine seems to be back & yellowish. I've looked at some that are rose and I definitely see pinkish in them.

Questions - is the below not Sc10? Or has the rose faded out?? Tks

Looks to be a normal color. The paper color is subject to fading with light. The paper color in Michel is described as matte to light gray-red. Your stamp is a Type II. The "1" postmark is Dresden.

If I click on your image to enlarge it I can see pale pink in the throat, under the "1" postmark, around the mouth and to the right side of the left 1 valuation number.I suggest slipping a piece of pure white typing paper under the stamp to see it more clearly without the neighboring stamps and page color.

ok, thanks for the info. I had compared it to a Thurn & Taxis, Sc 6 which is a back & rose and I can see the rose/pink much more easily so I suspected that Saxony one had faded but need to make sure. On the "1" Ring Cancel, as a novice, I noticed that the Scott Classic Specialized catalog lists Baden cancels and not Saxony - wonder why? Did all the states use this type of cancel? Confusing to me that Scott doesnt list them in the regular catalog but in the Specialized and not for all the states at that!?! Much appreciated.

excellent idea on the white paper. I think that might help, but I have trouble with colors... Not sure if I see it. Anyhow, here's the other I mentioned.

PS - enlarged the photo again and I do see it a little......

The regular Scott catalog is exactly that: it covers the "regular" issues with common errors and variants, and some forerunner listings. The Scott Classic Specialized "specializes" in the classic era of world philately, not in German cancels.

Scott is the wrong place to be looking for info about German cancels, anyway. Scott, first and foremost, is an American name specializing in American issues, errors, etc. What they've provided is an example/overview/sample for the curious or casually interested. You should be looking at any number of Michel publications (briefmarken.de) for information about German philately.

In a similar vein, for anything remotely specialized, you should be looking at publications about what you're interested in: Yvert or Maury for France, Sassone for Italy, ANK for Austria, Stanley Gibbons for British Commonwealth, Unitrade for Canada, Sakura for Japan, etc.

Consider for example, that Great Britain 1887 1 1/2d is #112 in Scott, but #198 in Stanley Gibbons. The best information is always close to the source.

Tks for the tip on the different areas. I wasn't looking per se on info on German cancels exactly. Not exclusively anyhow - just curious on the info presented in Scott and why. No one knows for sure but them. I just found it curious that they would list cancel info in one place and not another for a similar era and location and maybe those with more time could shed some light.

Saxony cancels from Michel catalogue

Thank you vayolene.

Type II or VII ? Type II looks unlike mine in the diagram vayolene posted from Michel. I don't have a Michel catalogue. Is there a Type II paper?

Stamps4Life,
Type II was referring to the stamp, not the cancel. A Type I stamp has no serif on the top of the "1", Type II has a serif. (And there are plenty of uncatalogued subtypes). The cancel is a Type VII.

If you see enough of these stamps you will realize that the paper color has a huge variation, from a deep rose to almost white. I don't know if that is due to the fact that the stamps are more than 150 years old or if the paper supply just had a lot of variation.

Bumping this topic to the present--

I found this Saxony stamp in an album I bought in a box lot, and the color isn't correct for the 1/2 ng from the 1855-60 series, and also the image of the face isn't the same as I see in Scott.

Looks like a crude forgery to me. Is anyone familiar with this one?
Thanks much!
Ray

I dont have any experience here, but these are the few I have. Sorry for the delay! Hope it helps. Wm. PS - sorry for the quality, couldn't take them out of the album! EDIT: I removed 2 of the previous scans and placed below

Try this. I double checked and the slip was an open mount!

Ray, yes, it's a crude forgery. There are a number of forgeries from convincing to poor, a couple even engraved like the originals. This one is not a product of the most well-known forgers/usual suspects.