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Posted 09/18/2021   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stlspidey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Which do you use?
I am very new to the hobby and need some advise on these.
Thanks.
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Posted 09/19/2021   12:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you referring to peel and stick mounts?
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Posted 09/19/2021   07:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stlspidey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes.
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Posted 09/19/2021   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have never used self-adhesive style mounts. Since I use mounts exclusively (no hinges for me) and prefer top loading for smaller sizes, self-adhesives are not available. They are the water activated type but then I use a glue stick rather than wetting the mount adhesive.

Even if self-adhesives were available, I would not use because they likely cost more. My mount costs are under 4 cents per stamp.
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Edited by angore - 09/19/2021 07:24 am
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Posted 09/19/2021   07:24 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cheapest way to buy mounts is in strips to cut to the desired size - it's worth getting the tallest you can in a particular price range. I'm not clear on the advantages of peel and stick - you're paying more for the individual mount, then presumably more on top to avoid the minor inconvenience of applying saliva or glue-stick.
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Posted 09/19/2021   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stlspidey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ok. Hey @angore which top mounts?
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Posted 09/19/2021   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes HAWID. I did stock up before they went out of business but heard an unconfirmed comment that Lighthouse bought their equipment and residual raw materials.
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Edited by angore - 09/20/2021 06:29 am
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Posted 09/19/2021   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stlspidey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks folks. So there are no problems with the stamp moving or falling out with only one side sealed?
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Posted 09/19/2021   2:57 pm  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks folks. So there are no problems with the stamp moving or falling out with only one side sealed?


As long as the stamp is properly placed in the bottom of the mount, and the album is stored upright, there is absolutely no problem with this (HAWID mounts). I use them all of the time...

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Posted 09/19/2021   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stlspidey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John.
Anyone try the Davo mounts?
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Posted 09/19/2021   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Anyone try the Davo mounts?


Preference Davo and Hawid
I bought 7Kg of the above new, used and opened packets,
I cut down to size, must be open top.
Secure with 2mm - 3mm strips archival double sided tape.
(Mounts can be moved without page damage)
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Edited by rod222 - 09/19/2021 9:14 pm
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Posted 09/19/2021   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love the Hawid top loaders. I had an issue I spoke about in a different topic but it turned out to be operator error.
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Posted 09/20/2021   01:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An SCF member bought a FISKAR mount trimmer on my advice,
cannot recall whom "Rob" from Australia.
(Can cut mounts with stamps inside)

I wonder how he is finding it ?

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Edited by rod222 - 09/20/2021 01:14 am
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Posted 09/20/2021   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are also stamp hinges -- which I still use for already-hinged or used stamps in some of my albums. This works out to maybe 1 cent per stamp. Super cheap. If you moisten a hinge lightly using good quality hinges, no problem at all. I don't use hinges on mint stamps for fear of upsetting those who admire the backs of stamps. For cheap stamps, though, it's generally not worth worrying about hinging very much.

For stamp "mounts," there are two decisions to make. (1) Do you want top loading mounts which will be closed only on the bottom? Or do you want split-back mounts closed at both top and bottom? (2) Do you prefer black-backed mounts or the all-clear style of mounts?

My preference is for split-back mounts although there is really no issue with the top-loaders, and they seem a lot more popular. My only personal nitpick with top-loaders is that I've found stamps "tilt" or move around in them more than in split-back mounts, and a few times I've had stamps fall out of them. Hard use or dropping an album will dislodge stamps from top loaders more often than from split-backs. Don't go dropping your own stamp album to find out if this is true!, This does not happen with split-back mounts which hold stamps pretty firmly. Your experiences may differ.

Your second decision is whether you want to use clear mounts or black-backed mounts.
The latter are currently far more popular with most collectors probably because they highlight or "frame" the stamp with the black background which looks kind of cool. But, and this does matter, cutting black mounts must be done very precisely since the black mount must be evenly cut, the same height and width as the other mounts, in order to match the neighboring black mounts or the page starts to look sloppy really fast. Black mounts also must be mounted to the album page very carefully in the same line as the others, no higher or lower. Mounts with black backs are very visible on the page so you see the tops of the rows of mounts even before you see the stamps in the mounts. If you aren't so concerned with neatness or precision, this will not be a problem.

With clear mounts, thus is not much of a problem since your eye is not drawn to the mount since it's clear. It's drawn to the stamp. If your row of mounts is a little "off" it's a lot less noticeable with clear mounts. Also clear mounts have a kind of aesthetic appeal of their own since they are lighter- and clearer-looking so they highlight the stamps in a different way from black mounts. Black mounts create a somewhat "heavy" looking album page, you might say, like a gallery with lots of little "picture frames" while clear mounts make the page lighter and less heavy. Both are very appealing to look at, but they do produce different results, for sure.

Album manufactures all currently use clear mounts, presumably for these reasons. They also use open-top mounts, probably because those mounts allow a little more ease in inserting stamps than split-back mounts do. But I'm really not sure.

Mounts work out to much more cost per stamp than hinges. It's a bit hard to say how much that is, but I've played around with the numbers. I cut my own mounts from strips and for me, it seems "around" 5c, 6c or maybe a little more per stamp. That's many times the cost of the more old-fashioned stamp hinges - which partly explains why I continue to use hinges in some of my albums.

The difference for an entire country's album of 3,000 stamps does add up. It would be $30 for an album using hinges vs. $180 for mounts, a difference that may not bother you. For 4,000 stamps in an album, it's $40 vs. $240. I'm assuming 6c per stamp. That might be a big difference for a lot of people. Of course, it's spread out over time, so maybe not. It's worth being aware of, though. Mounts do seem far more popular with collectors.

You also have a choice of buying individual pre-cut mounts or strips you cut yourself. Individual mounts are more expensive than cutting your own from strips. You can easily cut your own mounts by using a "guillotine cutter". You'll have the hang of it in a few minutes. I find it's good to cut "just a little more" than I think I should.

Final choice, as you've discovered, Davo Albums "self-adhesive" mounts you don't even have to lick. I've never used these, so I have no idea if they're a miracle in stamp collecting, but they cost about 10c per stamp, give or take. That's even more money spent on mounts, about $300 for that 3,000 stamp collection. That's a great deal more than 1c per stamp hinges, that's for sure! For me, anyway, lightly licking the back of a stamp mount is hardly a problem that needs solving. If they were removable and re-positionable that would be a real advantage, though, for a lot of people. But I don't think Davo self-adhesive mounts are. Maybe someone will "invent" such a mount, though. Or did I just invent them?

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Edited by DrewM - 09/20/2021 10:45 pm
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Posted 09/20/2021   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stlspidey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the advise.
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