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Questions On How Ebay Now Calculates Fees

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Posted 11/03/2021   12:28 pm  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add wheelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've been absent from ebay selling for well over a year and am considering getting back into it. Can someone please confirm if I have Their current fees correctly calculated. I start a listing at .01 and it sells.
So here is my understanding of the transactions.
SCENARIO 1
Sell .01
USPS .55
Est Tax .04
Total sale .60
Less .30 for transaction fee
Less 12.5% .08
I net .22
Less the price of the stamp @ .55
I lose .33

SCENARIO 2
Listing sells for $10.00
USPS .55
Est tax. .80
Total sale 11.25
Less transaction fee .30
Less 12.5% $1.40
I net 9.55
Less stamp .55
I net $9.00
Thanks for looking and commenting
Paul


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Posted 11/03/2021   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postage to mail a letter is now 58 cents, not 55.
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Posted 11/03/2021   12:49 pm  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oops - thanks Linus. Totally forgot about that and what's really interesting is I've been sending a few out with .55 in Sept and Oct and none came back.
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Posted 11/03/2021   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also check your math on Scenario #2, it sells at $10, you net $9, I don't think so. Your fees were $1.70.

Just trying to help you,

Linus
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Posted 11/03/2021   3:13 pm  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Total sale with tax and shipping is $11.25 which if I understand the fee system is what my net is based on. I don't get how they are allowed to make a profit on the tax if that is the way they doing it.
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Posted 11/03/2021   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen J Bukowy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably because they can.
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Posted 11/03/2021   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't get how they are allowed to make a profit on the tax if that is the way they doing it.


ALL processors, and that is what ebay is, charge their fee on the grand total.
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Posted 11/03/2021   4:26 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Based on your #s I suggest;





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Posted 11/03/2021   4:47 pm  Show Profile Check Triangle's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Triangle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Its similar in the UK with fees, they are VERY high on low cost items.

Is there a better way?
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Posted 11/03/2021   5:45 pm  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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ALL processors, and that is what ebay is, charge their fee on the grand total.


Indeed - going to the managed payments model was a very smart move! Instead of billing sellers on monthly basis, as before, it is pay as you go - comes off the top...

John
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Posted 11/04/2021   09:54 am  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like my estimates were close and it only makes sense to sell higher value at a fixed price otherwise it just doesn't make sense to list anything under a $1. It makes more sense to donate lower values to the kids section at stamp shows.
Thanks all for the great responses.
Paul
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Posted 11/04/2021   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also the calculation is based on NOT having any tracking or connection to ebay's system after the sale, nor using discounted postage. Envelopes, tape, labels, and other packing supplies are also not included above.

Regardless of the exact calculation, it shows why many sellers have a minimum threshold of $5 or $10 value or starting price per lot and lesser items need to be combined into sets or related groupings to reach a value worth handling.

Beyond that, it gets into the selling philosophy and comfort level of the individual seller for auction vs buy-it-now, low starting price or net pricing, etc. Obviously some large sellers have no problem with the occasional loss leader items sold for 0.01 or 0.99 when compared to the overall bulk of their other lots - microanalysis of the seller's tolerance of losing money on an occasional lot made up by the macroanalysis of the overall sales volume.

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Posted 11/04/2021   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Keeping the minimum listing values higher, say $25 or more, also greatly limits 'revenge feedbacks' malicious purchases. When you have low value listings, it is easy for those with bad intentions to make a number of purchases only for the purpose of leaving you negative feedbacks to trash your score.
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Posted 11/04/2021   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ebay makes sense ,when your buying large lots and withholding better material for yourself . Then selling everything else and it becomes a break even at the end of the month . There are many retired people who don't look at their working hourly rate on their ebay sales .
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Posted 11/04/2021   10:36 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The discounted postage is a help - it means, let's say, 40p saving for me on every £ of postage, assuming I don't use another courier. We also have occasional ebay offers of 80% off final value fees (lots of exclusions, of course). If I were wise, I'd save all my items in expectation of an offer period. I'm not, of course.
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Posted 11/04/2021   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldboldandbrash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys keep saying the .30$ fee comes first before ebay's cut— pretty sure it's the other way around. Of course ebay takes their 12% off of the higher total then deducts .30$ after that.
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