Plate 4, 90l4 Or 57l4? On Cover, It States Ic

i have this cover, I think a circular to Canada with a 1/2 marking

i think its plate 4, relief D?, type 3a

but it states Ic on the cover

due to the upper left scratch in the oval, and partial present right scroll and obvious dot in right plume

i am staring at the neinken book and the closest I get is 90L4 or 57L4
but they seem to not match a 100%

could use some help, new to plating and it is HARD

Dutch, you are right, plating is hard, and for the One-Cent 1851 Plate 4 can be super-hard (plating marks are frequently inconsistent). You are looking at the correct rows (6 and 10) because this is an F Relief (the flaw through the medallion oval at upper left is characteristic of Relief F on Plate 4, not Relief D). Try using the Doporto image archive (http://www.slingshotvenus.com/Frank...v_Main.html) in conjunction with Neinken.

thank you dudley, I am back on it and will update

1¢ Franklin Issue of 1851-1857, PLATE 4
Position 55R4
Scott #22, Blue,
Type IIIa, Relief F

this is my closest call, but not all the markings, including the shoulder dot, are there

thats the website, but if I look at neinkens book...not so sure

Dutch US Stamp Collector - It looks to me like a very good match with the Neinken map of 52R4.

It looks like your stamp does have a shoulder dot, but from the photo I cannot really tell if it (or the guide dot) are in the correct position to match 55R4. This kind of uncertainty is not unusual for Plate 4.

53R4

Winston is right ;-)

thank you all, I have, again, learned a lot! much appreciated!i was looking at very distinct markings but they are extremely sub tile

Agree - 53R4 it is, and I was a little hasty once again!

I have to comment on the cover itself. Circulars to Canada/BNA are uncommon in this era. This is a very fine postal usage.

Circulars were only paid to the lines, so the 1c stamp paid the US rate, to the exchange office, and 1/2 penny was due. You get a mixture of due markings on printed matter from the US to BNA through the 1851-1861 era.

In 1851, it was 1p due. Around 1855 that was lowered to 1/2p due.
When the decimal system came in to place on July 1, 1859 you would now see 1ct due. All neat markings to get and all are somewhat scarce.

Throw in a plate 4 1c stamp, and, collectively, a pretty cool cover.

txstamp, thank you, nice info!