Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Stamp, 10 Cent Jefferson, With Grill, Imperforated, Scott #?

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 473Next Topic  
Valued Member

Germany
32 Posts
Posted 11/29/2021   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stamps_inherit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

could someone help me with this stamp?

It is with a secret mark, could it be a #161c, but imperforated? I can´t find this in the Scott catalogue.

What do you think?

Thanks for your help and opinions!


Send note to Staff

Valued Member
United States
134 Posts
Posted 11/29/2021   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sheetguy2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
again....trimmed
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
541 Posts
Posted 11/29/2021   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Grill is fake and on the wrong design. Note the secret mark at upper right, that says it is a Continental or later printing. The grilled issues were printed by the National Bank Note Co. Most likely a Scott number 161 or possibly a Scott 188. Corner margin singles with very large margins are often trimmed to appear imperforate. Typically the left or right vertical sides have a natural straight edge and the balance of the sides have their perforations trimmed away.
The fact that it was cut close at the bottom says take a closer look. You may even be able to find tiny nicks on the edge which are the bottom of the original perforation holes. Your 1 cent stamp had several tiny indentations that could be the remnant of the original perforation holes.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by wtcrowe - 11/29/2021 09:54 am
Pillar Of The Community
4302 Posts
Posted 11/29/2021   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
1308 Posts
Posted 11/29/2021   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Micarelli has a footnote for Scott 161 that indicates a few were produced with an experimental J (7x9.5 mm) grill. He also notes that these were considered essays. But in their essay section, Scott makes no mention of imperforates for 161-E1. Don't know if this helps but thought it worth mentioning.
Added: Have to agree with the others ... trimmed.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by JLLebbert - 11/29/2021 10:21 am
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1784 Posts
Posted 12/06/2021   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only Continental grill essays Scott lists in the essay section are grill samples without a printed design. They are given the Scott number 79-E16 and placed back with all the other grill essays which preceded them in 1867. Those which were printed with designs are listed as sub-varieties of the issued stamps from the Continental Bank Note Company 156-166 and 178-179.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 473Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2022 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2022 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.13 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05