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Just Stray Ink Or Double Transfer On This #120

 
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Posted 02/09/2022   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Caper123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Title pretty much says it all. I'm thinking just stray ink but I've never seen an example of the Scott 120 double transfer listed in Scott's catalogue. I'm referring to the markings in "TWEN" of Twenty. Opinions please.
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Posted 02/09/2022   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp looks very small, and the perfs look pretty funny. Also the impression is very strong. I think it might well be a proof with added perfs, possibly used. Also possibly a fake cancel in an attempt to disguise it. The ink is probably extraneous.
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Edited by revcollector - 02/09/2022 6:44 pm
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Posted 02/09/2022   6:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rev. The perfs did look doctored. Was just curious about that ink.
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Posted 02/09/2022   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like ink (smear - poor wiping)) which is also present in the design above and below the "TWE" of the "TWEN" you mention. The enlarged image here on SCF shows it well. The color areas would be a bit sharper if a DT, but here the color is diffuse or spread.

I also lean towards a perfed proof. I have no comment on the validity or non-validity of the cancel.
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Posted 02/09/2022   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If someone doctored a proof they could have centered it better. Just saying.
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Posted 02/09/2022   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They could have, but too much better and more people would be looking at it. This way, it is just nice enough for many collectors without being so good that the collectors who go for serious centering would get interested. Those collectors tend to examine stamps more closely, and might ask very knowledgeable people for an opinion.
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Edited by revcollector - 02/09/2022 8:41 pm
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Posted 02/09/2022   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just am not buying somebody taking a $140 proof, shaving it, adding perfs while ensuring that the centering is so-so and applying a cork cancel. It would be easier (and likely cheaper) to just take a damaged 120 and doctor it up.

Need to see the back.
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Posted 02/09/2022   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's $140 TODAY. Things like this were being done 100+ years ago, and every year since. We don't know when it was done.
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Edited by revcollector - 02/09/2022 9:54 pm
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Posted 02/10/2022   04:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To address the original question, it looks like stray ink to me. The older practice of printing stamps was pretty messy and there was a need to wipe off excess ink all the time, but it didn't always get done soon enough. This looks to me like a little excess ink got on this stamp.

As for "proof" vs. "stamp" I'll leave that to more knowledgeable people, but it doesn't scream "PROOF!" to me, anyway. If it is, it falls under the interesting category of "Let's make this stamp look so much like a typical stamp no one will likely guess it was once a proof". If you really, really care, you can run it by an expertizing service but it'll cost you. I wouldn't bother. It just looks nice, and that's good enough for me.
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Posted 02/10/2022   06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do some comparisons. Look at the difference in the perfs.....

http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...lledfrom=lkp
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