US Stationary Stamps

Dear sirs

Kindly I need to know if there is any rare or valuable stamp in the below collection.

Regards




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Hi Peter, they are not stamps, they are called cut squares. And I do not believe there is anything rare or valuable in there!


Peter

Unfortunately most of these have been cut to shape instead of cut squares. Therefore, any value they may have had has been further reduced.

Peter

Space fillers at best and the 5 from postal cards are not even useful as space fillers. Even before the mutilation of cut small with clipped corners or cut to shape they all appear to be common.

Thx a lot sirs

I would suggest broadly, there are 3 categories in decreasing physical size (and value) order for envelopes:
Entires, cut squares, and cut to shape.
Postal cards are typically collected entire, rather than in any trimmed form.

Peter, you wrote:


How does that square with the USPOD/USPS calling these "stamped envelopes" for well over a century? Or along the same lines, the Meter Stamp Society using "meter stamp" as part of their accepted terminology?

It squares perfectly. They are stamped envelopes, not stamps. The OED is accurate:

post·age stamp
/#712;p#333;stij stamp/
noun
a small adhesive piece of paper of specified value issued by a postal authority to be affixed to a letter or parcel to indicate the amount of postage paid.

classic_paper, with all due respect, I asked Peter.

Peter is free to use my answer.

The OED is British and not necessarily based on a philatelic slant (nor includes revenue stamps, etc), thus is clearly a poor "philatelic" definition. My question was specific to American use, and in particular, how Peter's view compares/contrasts with two specific American uses. He deserves the courtesy of first reply.

Fine. Using only American-sourced philatelic definitions:

USPS defines a stamp as "A small adhesive piece of paper of specified value issued by a postal authority to be affixed to a letter or a parcel to indicate the amount of postage paid."

The APS distinguishes between "postage stamp" and "postal stationary."

The United Postal Stationery Society says this: "Postal Stationery may be defined to include all the stationery issued by the postal authorities on which a design has been made showing its value for postage. The most common forms are: stamped envelopes, stamped letter sheets (including aerogrammes), postal cards, letter cards, and newspaper wrappers. Some countries use other kinds of stationery, such as postal savings forms, money order forms, or telegraph forms, and these are also Postal Stationery, if they have value stamps printed on them."

Of course they can be called "stamped envelopes," since a machine physically stamped the design onto the paper. Joggers and engines both run, that doesn't mean they're doing the same thing.

classic-paper,
This needs shouting. PLEASE CEASE AND DESIST POSTING TO THIS THREAD. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR REPLY UNTIL AFTER PETER REPLIES. I ASKED IN MY LAST POST THAT YOU HAVE THE COURTESY OF WAITING. Thank you.

Actually, it's not your thread, dear. Do calm down.

Dear? Huh?

I am quite calm. I am simply trying to dialog with a specific individual to get a better understand of their thinking on their own posting. No one can provide an understanding of their own reasoning and beliefs except the person who made the post. Thank you.

Peter asked the question. Peter replied to the question. Peter (me) expanded on the answer. So since you want to hear from Peter here is my answer. They are not stamps. They are "stamped images" that were printed on envelopes and/or postal cards and cut out from them. Therefore, the USPS referring to "stamped envelopes" is correct. They are not referred to as "Stamp affixed envelopes".

Peter