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Posted 04/16/2022   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good find Stamps4Life.

It is vital to have a solid understanding of the postmarks/cancellations of the area you are collecting/studying.

So many pitfalls can be avoided when you have this knowledge.
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Posted 04/17/2022   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
so I ve looked some more..... I dont see the blue paper. Plate 63?

Under the chin lines and heavier shading under the crown looks to be die2. Alph III and P14

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Posted 04/17/2022   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sticking with my original statement, Die II plate 25, but as I mentioned, second opinions are always welcome.

Plating 1d reds (especially when you're quite new to it) is not only demanding on the eyesight, but also on your time.
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Posted 04/18/2022   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm sticking with my original statement, Die II plate 25, but as I mentioned, second opinions are always welcome.


Tks. I have been looking still and do like the plate color better. But in looking at the "F" on my scan, the horizontal middle extension end seems to be shaped more like an axe head... Also, I have been thinking about the Wmk of which I am still challenged with. I think its Large Crown TypeII as iim not certain the two small lines are there in the lower arches. But im having trouble getting a better scan/picture of the back to post.

I love 2nd opinions too. thanks for looking.
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Posted 04/18/2022   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stamps4Life,

Plate wear is going to play at least a small part in what the stamp looks like when compared to the imprimatur.

It's rather an inexact science!
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Posted 04/21/2022   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did this for the fun of it. I could not get mine in better - its the one all the way to the right and was scanned at a different color profile than the 1st scan earlier in the thread. It seems a little closer to the original color. FWIW.




I also wanted to share this from another Board, "Your stamp is an SG40 or in the SG Specialised Catalogue, its a C10. plate 25 doesn't exist on these so you can knock that one off your list as a starting point. In order to plate these, a starting point is to look for a break (or definite weakness) in the right hand frame line about 1/3 of the way up, if you see one, it'll likely be from one of plates 37-49 or 58-60. Yours lacks that break, so we can start by ignoring those plates. That leaves us with 27, 33, 34-36 (not 35 as that doesn't exist on C10)& 52 onwards (50 & 51 have alphabet 4 letters). When you have an E as one of the letters, they can be either 'tall', sort of rectangular or squat, more of a square shape. Yours is the former. The tall flavour runs up to plate 49. So we're now down to a possible list of 27, 34 or 36. Looking at the imprimatur images its isn't two of those - I make it plate 34".

As Bobby said, its not an exact science. Anyhow, FWIW. What an interesting area.
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Posted 04/21/2022   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Stamps4Life,

I learned something today

I'm happy with plate 34.

That said, the position of the letters on plate 25 is very similar!
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Posted 04/21/2022   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes…. I'm amazed at the difference in the colors and how they change due environmental conditions.
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