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Posted 05/31/2010   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice yarn there Tony

Bobgggg,
That's what I have searched for years for
Thank you very much indeed. Great Information.
Now to see if I have them all.

There is one you did not list

He did a Cinderella, I have to go find it somewhere on the Harddisk.

Can anyone translate this for me please?
Franco FILANCI. Una "Giornata" per Mezzana. In: Cronaca Filatelica, Anno XX, n°
157, (Nov. 1990), Napoli.
Racconta la storia di una mancata emissione per la Dalmazia progettata nel 1941-42 i
cui bozzetti furono realizzati da Corrado Mezzana. Elenca inoltre gli Uffici postali
della Dalmazia annessa all'Italia dopo il 1941. In copertina della rivista una splendida
riproduzione, colorata, dei bozzetti realizzati da C. Mezzana.

Mezzana's Red Cross Cinderella:
Poor scan, one of the first stamps I ever scanned.







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Posted 05/31/2010   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
He did a Cinderella, I have to go find it somewhere on the Harddisk


I think it's this:

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Posted 05/31/2010   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! a sibling! This forum delivers
Thanks Fabio

Can I take a copy of your scan please?

I have some more Mezzana..I'll go seek.

Although not inscribbed, I understand Mezzana did these for the
"Polish Legion".
Can you confirm Fabio?



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Edited by rod222 - 05/31/2010 7:33 pm
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Posted 05/31/2010   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Franco FILANCI. Una "Giornata" per Mezzana. In: Cronaca Filatelica, Anno XX, n°
157, (Nov. 1990), Napoli.
Racconta la storia di una mancata emissione per la Dalmazia progettata nel 1941-42 i
cui bozzetti furono realizzati da Corrado Mezzana. Elenca inoltre gli Uffici postali
della Dalmazia annessa all'Italia dopo il 1941. In copertina della rivista una splendida
riproduzione, colorata, dei bozzetti realizzati da C. Mezzana.

Franco Filanci. A "day" for Mezzana. In. Cronaca filatelica, year 20, #157 (11/1990), Napoli (my city).
Tells of a missing emisson for Dalmazia (an ex italian land, gone to Jugoslavia after WWII) projected on 1941-42 and designed by Corrado Mezzana. You can find the list of Dalmazian post office annexed to Italy in 1941. On the cover of review you can see a wonderful colored reprduction of Mezzana's drawings.
really sorry for my english...
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Edited by thiswas - 05/31/2010 7:35 pm
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Posted 05/31/2010   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod, where did you read that Mezzana designed the stamps for the
"Polish Legion"? I've just seen on my Unificato catalogue and it doesn't say anything about designer. Looking for "corpo polacco" and Mezzana on google I've found nothing...
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Posted 05/31/2010   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Fabio,
some years ago, I was singing the praises of Mezzana
on a newsgroup and a member either pointed me toward, or
emailed me a *.pdf italian catalogue.

I have just found it, here is a page ascribing Mezzana

If you want the pdf email me off list,
I presume the file is public domain.



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Posted 05/31/2010   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, Rod, I did not know it.
Oh, the scan I've posted is taken on the internet.

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Posted 05/31/2010   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod and Fabio.
I just played around with my machine-translation software and discovered that
poczta osiedli polskich = Polish settlements mail
and
z ziemi w#322;oskiej do polski = from Italian land to Polish land (From Italy to Poland ???)
Maybe this will help with your googling.
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Posted 05/31/2010   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Tony,
I have always had them pigeonholed as "Polish~Resettlement" stamps,
Linn's has them as "Polish Corps" stamps
They were used in Bari where the corps were headquatered.

Thanks for the translation Fabio.
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Posted 06/01/2010   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They were used in Bari where the corps were headquatered.

In point of fact, these were not used to frank letters. They were charity stamps. As you can see on the catalgue you have shown, there is non quotation for these on letters...
Regards
Fabio
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Posted 06/04/2010   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hbjzljq to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your analysis is very good!
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Posted 06/04/2010   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
They were charity stamps


Allow me to disagree Fabio,
I would quote Linn's as "not charity or propaganda labels"
They were used in the Bari Headquarters and are
a type of "local" postage stamp.


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Posted 06/04/2010   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thiswas to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod, you can disagree, of course, but in my opinion these stamps are charity stamps.
On the catalogue you posted is written "emissione di beneficenza in moneta italiana" it means "charity emission in italian currency".Do you ever seen a letter franked with these stamps?
On the Polonus Philatelic Society Forum I've read:

Quote:
Neither of the 1946 issues of Poland in Italy (Poczta Polowa II Korpusu and Poczta Osiedli Polskich We Wlozech were put into official circulation or used for official franking. These two issues have very much the same character of the Exile Government in Great Britain Issues except that the GB issues were approved by the Polish Gov in Exile and were intended for use which was ultimately denied by their British allies. Maybe a sign of things to come.


and


Quote:
some letters regularly travelled to Rome was indeed not travelled, but carried to Rome privately and cancelled with the help of someone working in the P&T dept.

Think about that ordinary letters was exempt. I've heard someone telling that these stamps were used only on certified mail and parcels, but I've never seen them.

Regards
Fabio
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Posted 06/04/2010   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Fabio,
I am not an authority on these, so will leave the debate open,
I'll post the response from Linn's for others to make the
call. The scans are non contiguous due to the restriction
of the forum's 90Kb limit







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Posted 06/04/2010   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was just wondering whether the italics in Rod's scan of Lynn were a translation from Sassone or from the Unificato.
If so, I would rather see the original and get it straight from the horse's mouth.
Therefore, I would appreciate if anyone with a Sassone or an Unificato gave us a scan of exactly what either of those two catalogues has to say about these stamps.
In the event that no one here has either of these books, perhaps Fabio or I could request the same information on "filateliaefrancobolli.it" and then pass on the information to the rest of this gang.
Thanks in advance.
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Edited by Tony Vella - 06/04/2010 8:17 pm
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