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211B- Are Cancelled Copies Hiding In 210?

 
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Posted 04/28/2022   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add imodius to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could this be the holy grail?


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Posted 04/28/2022   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but not a chance in anyplace you'd care to name. This is not clear (sharp) crosshatching at all, and it is not the only factor. If you are using the Swedish Tiger site, carefully compare what is shown there with yours.

Also used ones were carefully and neatly favor cancelled. These were not released through post offices to the general public.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 04/29/2022 12:36 am
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Posted 04/29/2022   01:08 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my 211B, not a perfect copy, and a 210.
The 211B has a PF cert.

Yes, it has the cross hatching, but you can really see the difference in the impression with this stamp. The analogy you can use would be the difference between a coin that's shiny that you find in your change to a proof. This stamp has a proof-like impression that is so much more detailed and beautiful than the 210.

Hope this helps, Ray

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Posted 04/29/2022   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
these pics don't really give it any justice. It looks red, there is gum on the back. Could it be from 211Bc? I notice on the right hand side it looks cut and there is a little bit of another stamp in the middle. Cheers
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Posted 04/29/2022   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add imodius to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay then, more like this?

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imodius, you seem rather desperate to find a 211B sleeper. What were you trying to convey in that initial image showing the cross hatching in LL of the vignette? What were you hoping to see?
The two examples you have shown are so far away from what you seem to be seeking, that your eye seems to need a bit of training.

Do you have any 210 proofs to use for comparisons with your stamps? If not, do yourself a favor and find a 210P3 online somewhere and buy it. It needs to be India paper, not a card proof. The India proof will clue you in unambiguously on what the 210 design should look like when completely clear as printed from a plate.
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Edited by essayk - 05/04/2022 11:19 am
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Posted 05/04/2022   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
essayk's suggestion is an excellent one.

When you get it, compare the bottom of the shield frame and the shading below the letters "TWO 2 CENTS". The shading on the india proof or 211B is composed of distinct lines, not blurs or solid blocks of color. Then compare the crosshatching which is not the only spotting feature of a 211B; it is far from that. Only then can you begin to think you have a 211B. I can see the features in ray.mac's 211B but you may need something up close and personal to see the difference.
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