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Ligne Bangkok A Saigon Paquebot Around 1890

 
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Posted 06/10/2022   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jossanders52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does anybody have more information on the cancel on a Thailand postage stamp? I have never seen this cancel before.
My best guess that it is a cancel saying in full "Ligne Bangkok a Saigon, Paquebot"
There was a mail boat service between Bangkok and Saigon in Indochina, stopping at multiple coastal cities along the way.. Cancels always show the word paquebot. Cancels from 1894 onwards are well known, but this seems to be an unknown earlier version maybe between 1890 and 1894.

Does any of the SCF members have access to Delrousseaux's Indochina
cancel literature? I would appreciate very much for any suggestion on the shown cancel

Thanks
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Posted 06/10/2022   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,
do you have the Indo China Packet Mail *.pdf?

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Posted 06/10/2022   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thailand. (French Indo-China). 1903. Picture post card of 'Elephant Contest, Phnom-Penh' addressed to France bearing Indo-China SG 24, 10c rose tied by 'Ligne De Saigon a Bangkok' date stamp (Salles 2003) with 'Saigon-Cochinchine/ Paquebot' (Salles 2010) double ring '12th Mai' and Arcachon / Gironde arrival on face '11th Juin'. Very rare Saigon a Bangkok French Maritime cachet, only listed by Salles on loose stamp, no cards or covers noted by him.



https://www.davidwrigleypostalhisto...land/DR17465

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Edited by rod222 - 06/10/2022 09:58 am
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Posted 06/10/2022   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
My best guess that it is a cancel saying in full "Ligne Bangkok a Saigon, Paquebot"


Jos, I doubt your CDS includes "Ligne" not enough room

also my references does not have "Paquebot"

Your Impression maybe just Saigon A Bangkok-Paquebot ? or similar

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Edited by rod222 - 06/10/2022 10:04 am
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Posted 06/11/2022   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the info..
I did some more study on the cancel.
It reads BANGKOK A …… PAQE
1. PAQE is spelled wrong, it should be PAQUE……
2. The name of the mail shipping line is: Ligne Saigon A Bangkok, not Bangkok a…..
3. The known cancels of this line read Ligne Saigon a Bangkok, there is not the word Paquebot
4. I agree with Rod, there is no space on the cancel for the word LIGNE.

So the cancel is either a very early, very rare pre 1894 cancel or it's an old cancel forgery
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Posted 06/11/2022   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure if this will help. From ebay.



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Posted 06/11/2022   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Edited by Just_fella - 06/11/2022 5:45 pm
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Posted 06/11/2022   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done Just fella
Looks like that is the one
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Posted 06/12/2022   03:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Just Fella
This card seems to have a similar cancel as my posted stamp.
Many of these Cambodian cards and occupation cards were just souvenir cards sold to the French occupation military in Cambodia. Many of these cards actually never run in the postal system.
On the front side is always a low value Thai-postage stamp, cancelled by some fancy cancel. Just to make the cards more interesting. The card shown by Just Fella is the first postal card for Thailand also cancelled as a souvenir. So my guess this cancel was just a souvenir cancel, nothing to do with postal authorities.
THANKS
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