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Is These An Error Or Varitey In Penny Red

 
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Egypt
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Posted 07/03/2022   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mottaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i wish to share this stamp , and here a lot of opinions, the Queens eye appear as it closed her eye so did any one agree with that also I compare about 500 hundred stamps of penny red I didnt find one obvious as this one ,so can others try and compare there stamps to here more about that and other opinions.
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Posted 07/04/2022   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything special about this stamp. Plate 199, looks like? Appears to be like all the other third-issue (1858-1864) penny reds to me.
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Edited by classic_paper - 07/04/2022 12:05 am
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Posted 07/04/2022   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you mean.

The lines that make up the eyes are weak in your scan. This can be due to wear of the printing plate (199). Anther possibility is that someone tried to clean off the cancellation. The mount it is in may make it appear so.

It is not an error. If you can call it a variety (if it is a printing from a worn plate) it is a minor one.
The check letters GB are nice for a GB collection. The condition may be an issue, though.
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Posted 07/04/2022   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks @classic paper ,@NSK I didnt say there is something special what I say may be overinked plate or any other reason the line of lashes in eye is darker and broad appear as a shadow make the eye appear to be closed , I agree may be wear in the plate or over inking , I didnt agree that someone try to remove cancellation, so it may be considered variety if there is another items in that position with the same plate number so I asked here if any exist in collections of the members here.
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Posted 07/04/2022   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't believe I have one but there you go!





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Egypt
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Posted 07/04/2022   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ Bobby De La Rue I like your sense of humor , but lets talk from the item you send it may be this plate with this position have that wear , did you agree with me , but we need more examples for the same plate same position, if any one can help.
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Posted 07/04/2022   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I couldn't see another on ebay (current and completed offerings searched) so hopefully someone else has another to compare.

It looks possible there is a plate flaw but I'd like to see more examples.
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Posted 07/04/2022   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I didnt say there is something special

I'm not saying you did. Your titled your thread, Is these [sic] an Error or Variety in Penny Red. My saying, "I don't see anything special about this stamp," is colloquial English for "nothing unique, noteworthy, or remarkable." In other words, not an error or variety.
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Posted 07/05/2022   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@classic paper , I understand you but I mean if this is an issue for this plate number (199) at position (GB) it may considered as variety of penny red but this need more material to check so I put it here, I didnt know if you or others agree with me.
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Posted 07/05/2022   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Bobby De La Rue , I agree with you and also wait to check more material if any one go to put here to compare.
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