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New Country For The Asfec Listings - Berars Province Of British India .

 
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Posted 09/03/2022   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add floortrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I did not find this Province listed on any of the list made or published albums for the A Stamp From Every Country listings .

John and Don ,can you tell me if that is correct ,it is listed on Wikipediia .
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Interesting. I would probably classify it under Hyderabad in India, but I can see why someone would want to separate the districts (provinces) as well. I suppose it boils down to how deep one wants to go...

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This is one of the reasons I am including some 'blank' pages with my version which are completely customizable (add your own Country Name, images, descriptions, etc.). The 'blank' pages even allow users to change to their own border design if desired. These pages also allow users to customize the entire album and make it a 'First Issue' for every country or topical such as 'Christmas stamps' from every country. But like John says, everyone has their own vision on what they might want to include/exclude.

Status on development - I am on the 'T' countries and am targeting completion with the next week or so.
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What can drive what you may list can depend on what catalog one uses. Catalogs differ. In some cases, stamps may get a dedicated country or be within with a single country listing, or the back (in Scott, it is the 1L, 1N. etc.). Sometimes the numbers restart at 1 or continue even when it is a different section.

What I find interesting that for some countries. such as Central South America.. the country na,es and borders have mostly been very stable but under a lot of political turmoil.
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Berars

Control Overprint on Standard revenues of India.

The Main provinces of India sometimes overprinted
national issues, to limit the use to within the province,
as a revenue protection measure.

BERARS is one of 20 such provincial issues
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Searching online I could find only revenue stamps in which the "BERAR" was printed, not overprinted. Does anyone know what's the difference, were they used differently?
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Rob,
As I understand it, the BERARS opt, was the Court Fees of 1882
(and would be opt on all value tablets of that design)
Barefoot Commonwealth Revenues 2000


Perhaps they were used as there were no local 1 anna Court fee stamps
available at the time, so they used opt National issues.

The other Berar Court fee stamps were 12 annas red.

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If I understand correctly, the overprint came because there wasn't an original 1 anna Berar stamp.
I found these online, all 1 Anna Berar:

https://swastiktrader.com/pm/stamps...0010588.html
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353023160458
https://www.collectorbazar.com/item...eceipt-60008

So I probably misunderstood something.
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Lots of maybe's
perhaps a change in usage, general revenue v Court fee.
...and why "berars" ? Berar State ?
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For my ASFEC project, I ignore fiscals, officials, postage due, etc. as anything special. Military stamps may be interesting if are unique to occupation.
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What about puppet states, and occupations?
do these figure in the ASFEC?

I was thinking of the Laurel stamps, of the puppet Philippine republic.
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Quote:
...and why "berars" ? Berar State ?

Remember when Argentina was the Argentine? And Ukraine was for a while called the Ukraine? Same thing. It was for time called the Berars (either because of its six districts, or perhaps because there was a Berar and West Berar at least) before just becoming Berar.
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Understood ! ,John is right when he said "I suppose it boils down to how deep one wants to go "

I got another one that many of you may of missed ,this is for postage stamps . The country Central African Republic changed their name and then changed it back . Between 1976 and 1979 they called themself Central African EMPIRE , on their stamps ,then changed back . That is another page for me in my collection .
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For those with a interest in another questionable country to add a page from A Stamp From Every Country album here are the Empire Centrafrican stamps
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Central African Empire

https://goscf.com/t/76848#690644 br /


Central African Empire, Coat of arms and Flag



Emperor Bokassa

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John's album typically provides a page for the current name of the country and the lists issues related to the history. Dead countries are under the modern geographic region I follow this but also add occupation stamps when unique He does not include questionable countries.

John provides spaces for 3 issues for Central African Republic,

Central African Republic Central African Empire 1976-1979
Central African Republic Central African Republic 1959-1976
Central African Republic Central African Reublic1979-
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