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Posted 05/24/2010   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add quigngt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This looks so similar to a Machin, I am wondering if Mr Machin may have designed it.



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Posted 05/25/2010   03:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hong Kong definately used the machin design.

From Wikipedia:

Hong Kong

In the British colony of Hong Kong, the last definitive series figuring Queen Elizabeth II was an adapted version of the British Machin stamp. The effigy is put to the right side of the illustration to make place for the place name in Chinese characters. The background is bicolour.

The first values were issued in June 1992.Many commemorative minisheets used the Hong Kong Machin stamp to mark philatelic events and the last moments of the British rule on the colony.

To prepare the sovereignty of the People's Republic of China in July 1997, the Machin series was replaced in January 1997 by a new definitive series showing the urban panorama of Hong Kong

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Posted 05/25/2010   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that Wiki article might be refering to these stamps. The design of the the Queen's effigy on the stamps that Quigngt posted are slightly different.



image courtesy of Freestampcatalogue.com

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Posted 05/25/2010   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a great looking set ! something about a single design , multiple colours thats appealing to me.

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Posted 05/25/2010   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, mine are similar but not identical to the Hong Kong Machins Trigger has posted. On mine the Queen wears a wreath and on the Machin she wears a crown. So I'm still wondering if Mr Machin is the designer for both profiles of the Queen.

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Posted 05/25/2010   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I looked on this wonderful web of ours and could not find out who designed the head, but it looks so similar I'd say yes! I'll keep a look out.

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Posted 05/25/2010   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The profile of The Queen, that Guignot has posted out of Hong Kong, seems to closely resemble the standard profile for QEII when she is not the dominant figure in a GB stamp, such as was introduced in SG689:




it seems very close to the HK stamp, perhaps only being machinized, as in looking like a bas relief:



This profile is still, to the best of my knowledge, still being used as can be seen in the recent example from 2009:




This profile is by my count, the third (I could easily be wrong since I don't know don't bout nothing) of the profiles used for QEII, the first two being the Wildings and Machin profiles. Alas, I don't know who did this profile but it is very nice and has been, I'm sure, adjusted over the years.
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Posted 05/25/2010   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not definitive (ha) information but on eBay and the web all 'round they refer to the stamps from the first post as machins.

After reading around a bit and mostly looking at pictures I lookaed at yours again and saw that the first stamp has an imprint date of 1990 and the second 1989 so there are two sets of these.

This pic is of the 1990 imprint date types (photo courtesy of amwstamps, eBay)


There are, of course, many varieties of (I assume) papers, sheet, booklet, mini or souvenir sheet, etc as there are of the set shown by triggersmob.

All this makes me want to collect Hong Kong. I had some of the newer definitive set of birds high value and perforated on a parcel from there years ago. Nice stamps also, besides all the Machins.
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Posted 05/25/2010   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks to all of you. This is all very helpful.

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Posted 03/12/2021   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An old one but never answered. Machin portrait, stamp not designed by Arnold Machin. Not the Machin Head used for Great Britain, not the same as the cameo used on British stamps. But there is a common origin.

The stamps showing the Queen over Hong Kong Harbour and buildings were designed by Robert W. Hookham. The portrait is similar to that designed by Arnold Machin for the 1973 Hong Kong definitives.

Mary Gillick designed the original coinage head showing Queen Elizabeth with a wreathed head.



https://onlinecoin.club/Info/Effigi...ary_Gillick/

It was adapted for stamps, facing left instead of right by David Gentleman for the 1966 Landscapes stamps. This is the cameo that appears on British stamps. On coins, the Queen faces right. On stamps, she faces left.


https://www.postalmuseum.org/wp-con...ndscapes.pdf

In 1973, Hong Kong issued its third definitive stamp set. This showed Queen Elizabeth with a wreathed head facing left. The portrait was designed by Arnold Machin.


http://hkstamps.yolasite.com/resour...%20issue.pdf

After the Hookham stamps came the following design that used the coinage head from 1965 designed by Arnold Machin and adopted for the 1967 British Machins.In this portrait, the Queens wears the diadem she also wore on the Wilding stamps and that Queen Victoria wore on the Penny Black.




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