50 Haller 1925 , Czechoslovakia- Plese Help With Paper Type.

Can someone please say wath is the paper type? It's odd because other 50 haller stamps,from 1925, seems that don't have those small fibers on the back or front side of the stamp. Could these be a stamp printed on a esparto paper ? This was mentioned by a forum member in a previous discussion tath this paper was also used in European countries.



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You need to look into a Czech specialised catalog for the answer .

I don't believe the stamp you show is real ,it looks like a forgery or it is a very bad scan .

Here is the real stamp ---

Opinion.
I think your stamp is genuine,
this issue does show fine screening, in production.
(Say in comparison to the 40 or 60 heller)
Your scans prevent any serious study though.

Gibbons offers no indication of paper variety.

These stamps of 1925 "Masaryk Linden leaf Issues"
are interesting on 3 observations.

1. All stamps prior, indicated their denomination by implication,
no currency name was given
Every future stamp names the currency, Haleru,Koruna,Koruny,and Korun.

2. They were the first to be watermarked.

3. Photogravure was introduced, abandoning forever Typography
(excepting postage dues and Newspapers)

Paraphrasing Mark Wilson June 2016

I don't have such catalog in my library.The stamp looks to have a watermark ,the leaf element of the watermark could be seen at left side . I have the stamp from many years I didn't bought it from a stamp dealer,it was in a box with other stamps in a drawer of a old cabinet at home.

Rod,
Thank you for the information you've given. I also didn't came across any further information about a paper variety in my catalogue. It points tath these issue was only made on a normal paper .
I'm sorry for the poor quality of the scans but these are the only images I can provide for the moment. I hope the additional images I post could help .

Looks normal to me (Not a specialist)

The Printer ONLY USED ONE STYLE OF PAPER for these.

Watermarks
One is faced with a conundrum, with identification

Warning! exposing photogravure stamps to watermarking fluids (Ronsonol etc) may harm them.

Cons : Only a small portion of the Wmk pattern will be visible on any stamp
8 possible Watermark patterns

The key is to locate a stem crossing a line with a spur and loop nearby
whilst ignoring all else

Bib: Mark Wilson "Czechout" Journal
Volume 34/2 Whole number 163 June 2016

example

TIP: Try imaging your stamps on a black background, tends to define the stamps properties clearer.

Looks like a Photogravure double transfer.

No

I've never heard of this before, does it exist? if so, how?

Lets step back for a minute . There is a big story here .

I got the " Doctor's" collection of these stamps . Every expert of CZECH philately knows what that statement means . What I am saying is every expert both here in the USA , and Europe and for sure every Czech stamp expert in CESKOSLOVENSKO . knows or was trained by someone who was taught by the Doctor . . Who was the "Doctor" he was the head Philatelic judge of the big stamp show in Czekoslovensko for many years .So it is safe to say he was the GODFATHER of Czech Philately .

Now your wondering how I got parts of his collection before Cherrystone Stamp Auctions sold his stamps in New York City . His wife gave them to me because I did something to stop the Illinois States Attorney Office ,they were trying to lock him up on some stupid drug charges ,that I took care of . . I told the story on the ebay CHAT BOARD in 1973 in more detail ..

Back to stamps ,here are his stamps with his notes on the back . Let me scan it on my next posting .

See you thought that collecting stamps was boring . -----Did you notice the clean cut perforations on all my stamps compared to the ragget perf's on the o/p stamp that was why I thought his could be a fake or was that just the poor scan .

I got pages and pages of his stamps with notes in Czech ,since I can't read them I just file them away .

@Rod:

You engrave a die, roll the transfer roller over it. Then roll the transfer roller over the plate to transfer the image. Repeat as many times as there are stamps on the plate. During this, shift the position so double transferring occurs.

Then take a photograph of your double transfer.

I know I should not, but I wonder what made Just_fella think of a double transfer. Where is the design doubled?