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Romania
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I need some help with this stamp. I can't identify the country, any help is appreciated. Thanks. 
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United States
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Netherlands
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It looks like a revenue usage. The French inscription and Ottoman currency would suggest a French protectorate - not colony - in the former Ottoman Empire (e.g., Lebanon, Syria) |
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| Edited by NSK - 12/25/2022 08:13 am |
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United Kingdom
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Not necesarily une connection française - in addition to the use of Turkish or Arabic, Middle Eastern stamps would customarily use French text as a lingua franca. |
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Side note: In French Canada, we still use the word « piastre » « as a reference to the Canadian dollar, much as English speakers say "bucks." When used colloquially in this way, the term is often pronounced and spelled "piasse" »
Vingt is 20 in French. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Can you measure the design please, in millimetres (mm) (to the half mm)
It has the same design as an 1882 Turkish Consulate stamp McDonald #1 But is shows the 20pi as Turquoise Blue Imperforate not listed in this value
Star and Crescent Unwatermarked
If I am reading McDonald correctly, this is the only Consulate issue with the value expressed in the lower frame.
Perhaps a colour changeling?
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| Edited by rod222 - 12/25/2022 08:42 am |
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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I think I have cracked it, Possibly a McDonald error, in using "Same" as identifying stamps under the latest image (not similar to yours) It appears "same" could relate to either of the designs Although your image is fairly poor, it appears to match one fro my collection that shows the ARABESQUE more clearly So, assuming the above "same" the 20 Piastres Consulate exists in the following McDonald #19 1889 20 pi Consulate OLIVE BISTRE (Still not listed as Imperforate) Here is my 1907 Consulate in Scarlet clearly showing the lovely Arabesque  |
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Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
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Romania
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Australia
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Thanks Size as listed 19.5 x 23 mm Close enough!  As mentioned imperforate not listed, but McDonald printed 1998 |
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| Edited by rod222 - 12/26/2022 04:35 am |
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Quote: As mentioned imperforate not listed Do you think it is trimmed? It seems to me too big to be trimmed. |
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Romania
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I've found this stamp on wikimedia : Turkey 1885 consular revenue, used. Catalogue: Forbin #9, Sul. #429, McD 11a.  |
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Australia
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Very Interesting, alas beyond my knowledge. Quote: Any possibility it's cut from an envelope of document? I shouldn't think so Geoff, being a revenue. I belong to ONEPS, I can shoot off a query to them, when I have a minute. I'll also re visit McDonald, I am not sure if my other library addresses these. I'll also look at McDonald 11A see what he has to offer. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 12/26/2022 3:57 pm |
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Australia
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Aha! The penny dropped Thanks for posting cristidnc  The image McDonald offers ONLY refers to the 1 stamp, with "-" Value ALL the rest are "SAME" as the image for the value in the bottom frame That then solves the stamps as also being Imperforate....All's good  Success from endeavor!  |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that seems to i.d. the stamp. Nice effort. But what about the handstamps/cancels? Are these commercial overprints? Cancels? Plus a manuscript cancel? Does the handstamp say "SOLVED"? I think not.   |
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