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Just if anyone recognises this, and for what use? It seems to make no sense.
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Hmm my bad, I was remiss in not searching ebay. Thanks a lot, CP, so an "essay proof" methinks a cinderella, happy to be proven otherwise. I find it hard to understand why people go to this effort for such things. |
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"Essay-Proof" is a misnomer. There really is no such thing in philately. Here are some basic definitions and conventional terminologies:
An essay is a print of a stamp that is in some way different from the issued stamp. There are other types of essays, but that's the basic definition.
A proof is a carefully made print of a final stamp design. A proof can be of the die (one subject) called a die proof. Proofs were often made of the finished plates: plate proofs.
Sometimes, engravers would make prints from a die while the engraving of the design was at an interim stage of execution. Such a print can be referred to as a "progressive proof" or "progress proof." But the better term to use is "die essay" or "progress essay" because:
(a) the design was made from a die (b) the design is different from the issued stamp
Hence, die essay.
Such items represent about the only opportunity for the use of the term "essay-proof," but in doing so we're entering a semantic gray area. In short, philatelic artifacts related to the production or evolution of a design are essays, and prints of the finalized design are proofs.
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Yes it did help, and saved. I did know of it from Melville but not seen it so eloquently described !  Many Thanks |
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I for one didn't interpret the listing as describing the item as an "essay proof." I understood instead, that the seller was just using those two words in the title to capture a buyer searching for either term, and was saving space by not using "and/or." |
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That was issued many years later and was issued in relation to a philatelic exhibition . |
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It is easy for you to see the first row going down in black was cut from that above sheet ,just by the excess paper in the margins .The 1 ,3, and 7 edging of paper . |
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Forgot the 2 value also has the corner cut ,thanks for the e-mail notifying me . |
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These stamps were made by stamp dealer Julius Goldner of Hamburg in the late 1890's in order to bilk sell to collectors. |
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I believe Julius Goldner's forgeries were better design and looked more like the original stamps . Those examples above both scans look almost like something that was computer printed . |
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Quote: I believe Julius Goldner's forgeries were better design and looked more like the original stamps . Some of his reprints looked better but he printed hundreds of thousands of these things, and some were not that good. He made a fortune on this stuff. |
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