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Posted 01/18/2025   01:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quanah to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like seeing all the pages filled with stamps posted in this thread. Given the volume I can appreciate the ease and low cost of 8.5x11 and d-ring binders. The complete pages are impressive.

I started with 8.5 x 11 paper years ago but switched to Scott Specialty page size with used Scott Specialty binders foumd low cost. The pages were die cut and 80# similar to Scott. I have some in their 3-ring

I have supplemented a couple Scott International albums with paper that size for my Middle East collection.

I found the Minkus country specific binders are a nice size. I had an Italy album from when I was a kid and I supplemented that with Steiner

I use an hp wide format printer.

8.5 x11 is easier and lighthouse binders with slip case are nice

I have also found some album easy and other pages off internet I like better than Steiner. Germany and Russia are two examples with stamp images

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Edited by Quanah - 01/18/2025 01:57 am
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Posted 01/18/2025   04:25 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Austria page is another example of Steiner's shoddy lay-outs. The stamps don't need to be squashed in four rows, with a top-heavy first row. And, even with his lay-out, why the acre of blank space instead of centring the stamps on the page?
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Edited by GeoffHa - 01/18/2025 05:46 am
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Posted 01/18/2025   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GeoffHa ---- Agree that page and many Steiner Pages could of been design better , do know Bill Steiner used many different support people who worked on the page design and layouts of the program to make the CD .

Bill leaves the door open to redesign his stuff . But collectors who have very little computer know how just use his work as is .

As for me ,my issue is different than most ,I need 30,000 to 50,000 pages for a worldwide collection then add on to that 11 binders of Cinderella stamps also 5 binders of Forgery collection . So as you can see I need a album page at the touch of a finger not a project to work on for the evening .
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Posted 01/18/2025   06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
UPDATE ON EVENTS for new collectors and readers about Steiner Pages .

We had a stamp auction firm trying to sell something like I posted above.

Cherrystone Philatelic Auctioneers had on their JAN 7-8 ,2025 auction a lot #1471 . It was for a 72+ volume of three inch three ring binders which was computer generated album pages . So as your can see I am not the only one doing this . This was a whole world collection with stamps for a opening bid of $23,000.00 ,it did not sell .
My thinking was it was way over price at $23,000 .00 . First the auction house clearly states the binders has no commerical value then gave a poor description of what you got . 50,000 different stamps has a $2500.00 vaue. Then 200 or 300 stamps or sets over $100.00 . {lets use 250 different just as a example } so 250 X $30.00 value comes to $7500.00 so stamp wise , it is a $9,000 -$10,000 collection with their no VALUE for pages and binders ------Where the heck did they get $23,000.00 opening bid ?
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Posted 01/18/2025   07:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at the Cherrystone auction description. If you wanted to sell something for $23K, I think you would add a few more images. Those large binders must be heavy. You can get a good idea with the fine presentation of the lot!

I wonder what "1840" stamp is in the collection.

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1840-2000 Albania-Zanzibar, large collection in 72+ volumes, three ring-binders, computer-generated album pages, arranged in alphabetical order and covering the entire world, 50,000+ used and unused singles and sets, strong showing of European Countries, Andorra, Belgium, France and Colonies, Germany, German States, Plebiscite Areas, Danzig, Memel, Saar, Italy and Colonies, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Scandinavian Countries, Netherlands, Portugal and Colonies, Switzerland, East European Countries, particularly Albania, Poland, Romania, South and Central America, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Colombia, British Commonwealth, with better Australia and States, British Africa, British North America, also Independent Africa, Japan, Korea and much more. Condition is mixed, with some faults noted, there are many short or incomplete sets, few volumes of no commercial value, but there is substantial value in better items, hundreds cataloguing $100+, with souvenir sheets, occasional covers, solid holding with great potential for expansion or break by individual areas or countries, substantial value



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Posted 01/18/2025   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cherrystone is high on their estimates and the lots have a high pass rate. Unlike other firms though you never see the material offered by them again. They have to be taking one shot at getting a high retail number and if that fails wholesaling it out the back door.
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Posted 01/18/2025   10:47 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see $23k either, nor even 20.
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Posted 01/18/2025   11:56 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Must be down the back of that armchair.
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Posted 01/18/2025   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madbaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Floortrader, I smiled when you said:

"... I need a album page at the touch of a finger not a project to work on for the evening ."

That's my cyclical conundrum. I make my own pages with AlbumEasy and will spend one evening making pages and the next mounting stamps. And on the third evening, I wonder if I should just print out Steiner pages (I have them too) and get on with it. #128513;

I stick with my process because for me, the time spent making the page is actually time spent learning about the issue. I can slap down nicely distributed stamp boxes in under a minute, but spend a few more finding out as much as I can about the stamps.

(This is not a criticism! I admire your process and what you're building very much! And I love seeing full sets of stamps I am nowhere near owning.)
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Posted 01/18/2025   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If making pages is part of the hobby for you, that's not wrong. Plus, you're getting a few more hours of interest out of the money you already spent on the stamps. That's a bargain.
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Posted 01/18/2025   1:34 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. Making up the quadrille pages is as much part of the collecting as buying the stamps is. I also have preprinted albums, but it's like putting the supermarket delivery in the fridge.
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Posted 01/18/2025   3:03 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The description on that collection is 50,000 "singles and sets" so it could be a higher number of total stamps. (I agree that the estimate is high, and that the lot is underdescribed and would need to be viewed to get any sense of it).

I also agree that Cherrystone tends towards very high start prices. On the other hand, they definitely sold quite a bit of Al Kugel's material, so not all of it is too high. (as a side note, I just sold a cover yesterday that I bought at Cherrystone a few months ago and made a tidy profit on. Cover was properly described, just went cheap in the auction. It's a weird business).
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Posted 01/18/2025   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgreendragon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who on earth would spend 20,000 plus dollars on a lot with no pictures?
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Posted 01/18/2025   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgreendragon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looks like all cheap paper and cheap binders. Thus, the stamps better be good. At least the collection will have consistency.
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