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French Stamp- Air Post ?

 
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Posted 03/09/2023   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add post_pe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can someone please help with information about this French stamp.
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Posted 03/09/2023   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 03/09/2023   07:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A Google image search, using post_pe's image, reveals some possible additional info
https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&ogbl

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Posted 03/09/2023   07:05 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A 1920 precursor to French air-mail issues, known as "Guynemer", issued as yours and with a surcharge. CV around €20 mint.
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Posted 03/09/2023   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the stamp with overprint :
"Meeting Aéronautique de Buc
Octobre 1920"
(Buc is a small town,very close to Versailles)
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Posted 03/09/2023   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I posted a number of scans and snippets from Maury and American Philatelist on another forum. Unfortunately, they were hosted on photo_ucket. I can dig out a hard drive later this evening that should have the original scans.

The information has been dropped from newer editions of Maury, so you'd need a 2009 (or thereabouts) to read several paragraphs on these.

rod contacted Michel back in 2015, and actually got a reply as to why they don't list them. I don't understand why Sanabria doesn't (didn't) list them. They're certainly interesting.
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Posted 03/09/2023   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They were also used on airmail from French Morocco.
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Posted 03/09/2023   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp was designed by Léon-Henri Ruffe (not Riole)
Ruffe engraved this Red Cross stamp from 1918 and most stamps from the "Orphans" series
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Posted 03/09/2023   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add post_pe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I admit that I didn't think tath it's a stamp at all. It looked me as a Cinderella. That's something new tath I learned ,from the discussion .
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Edited by post_pe - 03/09/2023 1:00 pm
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Posted 03/09/2023   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The original excerpt from American Philatelist Vol 31 - 2 (1919) does list Ruffe (not Roile).

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Posted 03/09/2023   4:29 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The picture below was used in Ouvré's design of a stamp issued on 7 November 1940, after the establishment of the fascist Vichy regime, although it would have been prepared before the fall of the Third Republic (a further, rather poorly designed stamp was issued in 2017). Guynemer shot down fifty-four enemy planes. He died, another victim of German militarism, on the Ypres front on 11 September 1917. "Lorsque l'on n'a pas toute donné, on n'a rien donné".


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Edited by GeoffHa - 03/09/2023 4:31 pm
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Posted 03/10/2023   02:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add post_pe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the person depicted on the Air Mail stamp,yes ?
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Edited by post_pe - 03/10/2023 02:04 am
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Posted 03/10/2023   02:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Capt Guynemer on two french cinderellas


1944: fiftieth anniversary



1937 : from "Les Ailes brisées" (Broken Wings) booklet of 10 "stamps"
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