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Posted 04/05/2023   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Saylor1971 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello

Anyone know what this is?

It's obviously not a real 1855 #3..but it's also not good(believable) enough as a forgery. It's not a proof. What's also kind of strange is that it appears to have been pen "cancelled" with an old style pen - i.e. the ink looks old. It's probably not a cut out from a catalogue as it's just not accurate enough.

Any ideas? An early amateur forgery?

2nd image is the real stamp for comparison.


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Posted 04/05/2023   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it could be a postal forgery ,in other words to cheat the post office . I seen stuff like this done with colored pencils on U.S. envelopes
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Posted 04/05/2023   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think this was just a very poor forgery. 2c would make this too stupid to pass as a postal forgery. The pen cancel I feel was just an attempt by someone to try to make others think this was genuine.
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Posted 04/05/2023   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"too stupid to pass as a postal forgery" want a bet --- I seen S&H green stamps used on letters
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Posted 04/06/2023   12:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, but remember in the earliest days, mail was checked and sorted by eye and hand, albeit very quickly, and not by high-speed machine, Things could still slip through back then, but not anywhere like today. After all, there were just two stamps being used at the time of the 2 skilling blue – very much easier in that country to pick up on any poor postal forgeries.

In the era of S&H Green Stamps, how many thousands more mailing pieces were going through the postal system? That's comparing apples and oranges. And a pen cancel does not necessarily mean any kind of genuine use.

As for "too stupid", postal jobs used to be regarded as quite a high-level job that demanded intelligence. Apparently today in the US, if Mommy fills out the job application for you and lies, that's good enough. And the first thing to learn on the job is to find all the good places to hide and take a nap. The church parking lot across from where I live was a favorite.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 04/06/2023 12:51 am
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Posted 04/06/2023   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Saylor1971 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks floortrader and hy-brasil,

Was thinking this morning this would be an exceedingly rare cancel from this time as almost all cancels from this time you see have the concentric rings with the town number. You do see sometime an X in pen or a plus sign, but those are fairly rare.

I guess I'm so used to looking at really good forgeries where it's just a fly-speck difference away from being real that I forget how many really bad forgeries there are.

btw, this is from an active listing on ebay being sold as real....

Wonder if there's a significance to the cents denomination - DWI stamps are denominated in cents. Could be a fake of the those earlies?
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Posted 04/06/2023   09:52 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From a toy "post office" set? Or too early for that?
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