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Misspelled "Fowrarded 3" Marking - Comments Please

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Posted 06/22/2023   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Chevelle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've never seen this marking before and a couple other postal history buffs I've shown it to have never seen it. Any input is welcome from the postal history folks on SCF. Thanks.





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Posted 06/22/2023   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At first look, my spidey senses went off when I saw such well stuck cancels...but the cover appears legit in other ways
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Posted 06/22/2023   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had not seen the marking before, but it is listed in Simpson's U.S. Postal Markings 1851-61. It is only a rarity "3" marking - common 41 to 70 examples recorded
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Posted 06/22/2023   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen that Saratoga Springs cancel before, and it was struck fairly well. But I have never seen this misspelling.
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Posted 06/22/2023   9:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hoosierboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Big mistakes can be made without the aid of a computer.

Very nice cover.
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Posted 06/23/2023   01:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see two cancelations, are Saratoga the recipient P.O. and Painted Do** the sender?
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Posted 06/23/2023   02:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I see two cancelations, are Saratoga the recipient P.O. and Painted Do** the sender?

Yes, sort of. Originally sent from Painted Post, NY on Sep 10 to Saratoga Springs, where it was forwarded to Schenectady on Sep 13.
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Posted 06/23/2023   03:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks ZebraMan.
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Posted 06/23/2023   06:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The forwarding to Schenectady is in the same handwriting script as the original address. Isn't that odd, i.e., unlikely?
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Posted 06/23/2023   06:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Basil,
I agree they look similar but I believe there are differences. Look closely at the N in New York. Also note the ending stroke in the S, in one it ends with a circle, the other one does not.
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Posted 06/23/2023   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The forwarding to Schenectady is in the same handwriting script as the original address. Isn't that odd, i.e., unlikely?


Similar, but not the same - compare the first "S" in Saratoga with the first "S" in Schenectady. The "N.Y." in the forwarding is completely different from the "N.Y." in the original address.

Edit - was posting at the same time as Don
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Posted 06/23/2023   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On the other hand, the three "S's" in "Saratoga Springs" are all different, and the difference in "N.Y" also came from one being capital letters. So maybe the sender wrote the original address at home at the desk and corrected it hastily at the post office. In the second "N.Y" the "Y" runs out of the cover. It might not have happened if the sender wrote it at his desk.
Can it be that Schenectady received its mail from Saratoga P.O. too?
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Posted 06/23/2023   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I used to have quite a few Painted Post CDS's. They have differing colors and are often well struck, and very nice appearing. Its a fun town to collect these CDS's from. This one is normal for it. The Saratoga Springs is common, and also often well struck.

I was unaware of the misspelled auxiliary marking, but as long as its 'known', then the rest of the cover appears perfectly legitimate.

Very nice cover by the way.
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Posted 06/23/2023   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chevelle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all who have commented so far. The cover shown still has its correspondence enclosed (from the addressee's son) and it is datelined Painted Post Sept 9th 1859. The cover comes from a large hoard of Norman Fox (and his associates) covers, probably 400+ covers, most with correspondence intact.

Many covers originate at Painted Post, NY and txstamp is correct, most are struck with quite nice cancels as are the Saratoga Springs (and Schenectady), NY cancellations.

Fox covers that I've shown previously on SCF are https://goscf.com/t/77815

and a couple are shown in this thread in response to a topic initiated by txstamp in which I used Fox covers (scroll down just a little ways to see the 2nd one): https://goscf.com/t/71731&whichpage=1#636197

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Edited by Chevelle - 06/23/2023 11:26 am
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Posted 06/23/2023   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed that the circle was completed in the "S" of Schenectady and not Saratoga Springs, but was more impressed with the broad ink stroke in all three of the capital "S"s. I did not look closely at the "N.Y." and the differences there are stark.
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Posted 06/23/2023   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Fox covers that I've shown previously on SCF

The new cover also has the destination deleted and replaced by "Schenectady", so I think again that the sender (not the butler) did it.
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