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Germany Empire Stamp Mistaked Sc#92A , Mi#94A

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Posted 07/17/2023   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mottaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
wrong description please any one see the topic complete reading to avoid wrong data
thanks to whom reveal that @PostmasterGS @NSK
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Edited by mottaz - 07/17/2023 5:37 pm

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Posted 07/17/2023   2:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Think you've got the wrong ID. Scott 92 / Michel 94 doesn't have the flag on the right side of the the post office.

It's either Scott 111 / Michel A 113 a (red under UV) or Scott 111b / Michel A 113 b (brownish lilac under UV).
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Posted 07/17/2023   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:PostmasterGS, its not about flags also sc#111 is different perforation and water mark and the number of holes is different ,check scott specialized or michel catalog and look here
https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/ge...ing/53685267
and here
https://www.stamp-collecting-world....mania14.html
the stamp in the photo is perforation 14.75*14.5 sc#111 is 15*14.5
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Posted 07/17/2023   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is about the flag. The design changed with Scott 111 / Michel A 113.

That's not Scott 92a / Michel 94. It's Scott 111 / Michel A 113. If those sites say differently, they are wrong.

EDIT: And the perforation measurement on Scott 111 / Michel A 113 is Comb 14.75:14.5, 26:17 holes – exactly what you say you have here.
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Edited by PostmasterGS - 07/17/2023 3:21 pm
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Posted 07/17/2023   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@mottaz,

Not a very good strategy to tell PostmasterGS to check Michel.

Just some listings of German dealers.

Mi 94 No flag at right
https://www.german-reich.de/Mi-Nr-9...o-/-signiert
https://www.briefmarken-deutschesre...eft-bpp.html

Mi A113 Flag at right
https://www.hausderbriefmarke.de/de...tfrisch.html
https://www.sammlershop-tk.de/en/de...ch?a=2635788
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Edited by NSK - 07/17/2023 3:41 pm
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Posted 07/17/2023   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:NSK always conversation be like that always any person suppose he is right at least 99% and wrong at most 1% so if I right a sentence you think it is wrong then you must told me why then I will check what you say if I am wrong I will change what I say, that is the right way ,so now I will check the links you put, thanks for your comment.
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Posted 07/17/2023   4:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PostmasterGS gave you a very good explanation why the stamp could not be Mi 94. There is a difference in design.

"According to my information ,,, and this website" is much different from "check scott specialized or michel catalog and look here ..."
The latter way of putting it can be interpreted as "You do not know what you are talking about."

You might find this site interesting for the German Empire stamps.
https://www.germanstamps.net/
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Edited by NSK - 07/17/2023 4:45 pm
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Posted 07/17/2023   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect there are cultural and language barriers in play here.
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Posted 07/17/2023   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:NSK there is something unclear and I will do my best to make it clear so we can agree about what is right the links you send refer to stamp mi#94a I while which differ in perforation and issued 1912 , what I mean is mi#94a II , 1915 and to be honest I am not sure it is like the other without flag or with as what I know it is with flag but different shade color and perforation , I will search more to get a photo from reliable source and update here , also there is a great difference in value.

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Posted 07/17/2023   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:NSK didnt forget that interpret a written chat text specially in internet sites will in mostly give you wrong idea because you didnt see the face and body language tone of talk ,and may be as dear : shermae quote "I suspect there are cultural and language barriers in play here." so take things as I explain in the boundaries of stamp hoppy.
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Posted 07/17/2023   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:shermae you may be right also check my previous reply.
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Posted 07/17/2023   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:NSK I checked more and it is clearer in scott specialized it is profile A17 without flag so I will apologize for you and dear :PostmasterGS , thanks for your care ,also I will edit the main topic if thats possible.

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Posted 07/17/2023   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hallo mottaz,

Nice you found it!, In Michel go to 1920.

Here an example on card. Mi.Nr.A 113.

Yours is cancelled in 1921 in BERLIN.

Salutations

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Posted 07/17/2023   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear:hornet785 thanks for your help although it is defferent perforation but I can say it may be due to shrinkage of paper as it is 14.75 while the issue latter is perf 15 I think.
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Posted 07/17/2023   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
but I can say it may be due to shrinkage of paper as it is 14.75 while the issue latter is perf 15 I think

Two points:
1. The stamps are dry when perforated, so there will be little chance for change between production and now.
2. And even if you believe the paper shrinks over time, the rate of perforations will increase, not decrease.
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Posted 07/17/2023   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nobody likes shrinkage.
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