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Barnett And Lion Six Cent Stamp Or Label ?

 
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Posted 01/26/2024   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Gizzmo4222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this is a large old time collection of revenues. Not listed in Scott or any of the Match/Medicine books. Not sure if a stamp as it does not say internal revenue like all the MM's do. Possible an old package label ? Amny hlep is appreciated. Thanks
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Posted 01/26/2024   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
your item is very similar to the scott listed rs132 for hostetter and smith. they also had a 6 cent listed as rs 133. this is a facsimile used after the tax repeal by a successor firm, it may be in the (if I recall) springer catalog 9th edition, or one of jim drummond's cats.
it is not all that common imo and is a nice addition to any match and medicine collection.
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Posted 01/26/2024   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a pretend stamp used by a company to get around actually paying the tax. As such I would think it quite rare. Notice that it does not have U.S.Internal Revenue on it to prevent being arrested for counterfeit stamps. Only non payment of taxes.
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Posted 01/26/2024   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's an unlisted company from New Orleans, so it is not a facsimile of any listed company, even though it looks similar to some.
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Posted 01/26/2024   7:59 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A facsimile or fantasy of some sort? I would contact Eric Jackson and ask him (https://ericjackson.com).
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Edited by revenuecollector - 01/26/2024 8:09 pm
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Posted 01/26/2024   8:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
on second look I think you are right...........immatation with intent to defraud.......i also agree with it being rare.
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Posted 01/27/2024   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gizzmo4222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I sent a note to Eric to see what he has to say. Thanks for all the help. Mike
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Posted 01/27/2024   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know where any of you checked for Grey Jacket Bitters, but the manufacturer was located at 81 & 83 Gravier Street, New Orleans.
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Posted 01/27/2024   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More info about Barnett & Lion Grey Jacket Bitters. They were in business during the M&M stamp period. No listing for a printed cancel in Morrissey's book

https://www.peachridgeglass.com/201...ach-bitters/
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Posted 01/27/2024   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Don't know where any of you checked for Grey Jacket Bitters, but the manufacturer was located at 81 & 83 Gravier Street, New Orleans.


My point about "unlisted" referred to the listings of M&M issuing companies as listed in the Scott Specialized, etc, not whether they actually existed. I assumed that they were a legitimate company.
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https://www.peachridgeglass.com/201...ach-bitters/

Above is a link to a great article about Grey Jacket Bitters. Peach Ridge Glass is maintained by a very knowledgeable collector of antique bottles. The Federation of Bottle Collectors (FOHBC) also has links to information about M&M bottle to go along with the stamps. I collect antique bottle as well as stamps. Have a great day and take a look at these web sites. Lots of good info.
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Posted 01/27/2024   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also have several bottles, although I don't "collect" them as such. I don't have this one.
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Posted 01/27/2024   7:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add olddutch2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been collecting bottles and stamps for over 50 years. It's ironic that many low priced M&M stamps go with high priced bottles and visa versa. I don't have many bottles with their matching stamps, but it's fun to look at stamp shows and bottle shows just the same.

I always hear people complain about the stamp hobby having trouble attracting young people into the hobby. It's the same way with bottle collecting. Mostly grey hair at the shows.
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Posted 01/27/2024   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My interest in bottles also goes way back, but I have only bought 2 or 3 in the last 15-20 years.
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