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Pet Peeves On Early U S Stamps

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Posted 06/05/2024   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Gizzmo4222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
lets see how long a list we can get going:

paper hinge remnants on nice high catalog issues

glazing from old crystal mounts that people swore by in the 50's and 60's !

pencil notations on the gum of MNH issues
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Posted 06/05/2024   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A jumbo stamp with its margins trimmed to make it look "imperforate".

A single stamp that comes with a recent certificate from the block of 4 where the stamp was separated from (I collect multiples and would prefer the block).

A pen cancel removed and a fake CDS added to make the stamp "more desirable".
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Posted 06/05/2024   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jumbo imperf singles which should really be thought of as a damaged block of 9. Cutting up any multiple to create such a jumbo.
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Posted 06/05/2024   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Early imperfs that were separated by scissors cutting into the design, re-gumming, pulled or short perfs
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Posted 06/05/2024   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rare cancellations on off-cover stamps.
Anything on a stamp that hints that the cover it came from would have been eminently collectible.
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Posted 06/05/2024   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott numbers that should be varieties.
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Posted 06/05/2024   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pencil notations on the front of any cover (especially the selling price)

Collector's backstamps that bleed through to the face



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Posted 06/06/2024   11:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dark violet vs. blackish violet - if you know, you know
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Posted 06/06/2024   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps encased in a mount sealed on all 4 sides with black paper backing. Extremely tedious to remove stamp without damaging it.

And I second Greaden's comment on Scott numbering. The entire U.S. Specialized needs extensive overhauling.
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Posted 06/06/2024   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's only been 84 years since the last serious overhaul.....
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Posted 06/06/2024   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andyrich74 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed on the Scott listings.
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Posted 06/07/2024   04:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed on the "coffin mounts" sealed on all 4 sides, and I will add to that list encapsulated graded stamps. They keep falling off the hinges
Fortunately most of the encapsulated graded certificates that I see are for modern mint which is not the subject of this thread, but occasionally I see an early stamp that I want, but it is encapsulated and not worth the $15 fee to get it extricated from the mount.
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Posted 06/07/2024   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The postmark's town and date written on the back of the stamp when they are easily discernible on the front.
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Posted 06/08/2024   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also agreed about early Scott catalogue listings. They are a mess. This was apparently done way back then when Scott was both a dealer and a catalogue publisher to create as many "different" stamps as possible to profit from more stamps to sell. So, yes, a "conflict of interest." Plus, in the early days of stamp collecting there just weren't enough stamps to collect, so collectors collected everything possible such as cut squares and various other "stamps" no longer part of a standard collection, so why not have even more to sell? The emphasis was clearly not on listing only clearly different stamps.

British stamps also suffer from the same silly compulsive need to list every conceivable type of the same stamp as if it deserved a different catalogue number. Ever spent time with the Stanley Gibbons Great Britain catalogue? Ho - ly Smokes! Welcome to eyestrain and a headache. So it's not just Scott that does this. The Scott Specialized U.S. catalogue really does need an overhaul.

Pet Peeve #2: Since when are stamps reprinted as souvenirs with no postal purpose and sometimes even without adhesive considered "stamps" which deserve different catalogue numbers?

Pet Peeve #3: In the Scott catalogue, dates of stamp issues only appear at the very beginning of a listing. This is fine for 20th century stamps, but for many lengthy 19th century issues that means pages of stamps without showing a date, forcing you to repeatedly flip back to search for the date. Why not list the date at the top of each catalogue page?

Pet Peeve #4: Obsessive-compulsive color differences no naked eye can differentiate. Yes, "dark violet" vs. "blackish violet". They are the same color! Also I hate anything called "carmine". Or "lake". What ARE these colors? I know! They're "red". Sometimes I feel like I'm shopping for women's clothes. Puce? Burnt sienna? Straw? Ochre? Now I really have a headache.
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Posted 06/08/2024   06:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alas, in U.S. stamps there is a real difference between red, carmine, and lake. No one is forced to collect every shade variety.
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Posted 06/08/2024   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
DrewM ----- Wait a minute .....back up. This whole color thing was a issue,well be you were born .

This started back 1870's and 1880's between the way French stamps were collected ,then it turn into the British way of collecting verse the French way of collecting . There was big disagreements around the way the dealers in Paris sold stamps . As the French way became the way the specialist all went over the British way . This only came to the United States later as stamp dealers started listing this on price sheets that the Scott catalog starting listing these color printing differences .

In my worldwide collection I have hundreds of shades that the catalogs don't list are they real differences I don't know because I don't have 220 different specialise catalogs from around the world to be checking on each one ,that will be a problem the next owner of my collecting could work out ......I got it mounted and let somelse deal with it .
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