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Another Novice Question - Perforating

 
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Posted 07/20/2024   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stamps4Life to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So in my introduction to revenues, everyone has been patient and helpful - thank you. Another beginner question - it's just not clicking and I'm not the best googler.

I've a few later issues revenues where one or 2 sides are not perforated. Either a bottom or a side and bottom. Did revenues come in booklets? I e looked up part - perf , which is both horizontal or both vertical being imperforate, so that's all I can figure on my examples. I must be missing something here.

I'm away from my desk, so no examples to post. But if necessary, I can later. But I'm sure there's a simple explanation. Also, any tips on good sites to read up on is welcome. I e been using revenue-collector and stampsmarter.

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Posted 07/20/2024   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, how about the edge(s) of a sheet(let) ?


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Posted 07/20/2024   09:57 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a note in Scott below R310 "The $10-$1000 denoms in this and following similar issues and the $2500-$10000 stamps of 1952-58 have straight edges on one or two sides. Some like 306-10 noted as issued in strips of 4, some like R679 in booklets.
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Your question is very broad. Straight edges will either be part of the natural production process or damage from later trimming, whether accidental or on purpose.

For "natural" straight edges, one or more straight edges on a revenue stamp (or any stamp for that matter) depends on the overall plate layout and the intended size of the final stamp product delivered to the user. Broadly, this can be sheets, booklets or coils, and with some revenues can involve tabs/stubs retained for accounting, etc., etc.

I agree, it would be best to have specific stamps posted and discuss them here one by one, otherwise the list of various possibilities is nothing more than a random guessing game..
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So the note mentioned above might for the Scott catalog below R310 may explain it. I don't know these Scott no.'s by heart, so id have to look them up. I know next to nothing on revenues and have been concentrating on GB one penny imperfs - so no issues there! But in my simplistic way of thinking, that if they were perforated issues, the entire sheet would be perforated - except for maybe booklets?? Im not a pro on printing methods either , so I just haven't figured it out yet and was curious. Here are some examples:





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Posted 07/21/2024   1:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The middle two items were issued as strips off four and will have straightedges at top and right side, right side only or bottom and right. The first is a top margin copy, the last is a gutter margin single and both maybe found with top,bottom left or right side straightedges, and lmay also have two adjacent straight edges if I remember correctly.

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Posted 07/24/2024   08:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The middle two items were issued as strips off four and will have straightedges at top and right side, right side only or bottom and right. The first is a top margin copy, the last is a gutter margin single and both maybe found with top,bottom left or right side straightedges, and lmay also have two adjacent straight edges if I remember correctly.


Thanks m and m.

I guess I need to find a good primer article on printing and perforating. In my simplistic line of thinking, I gather all sides would be perforated if not imperforate.
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There have been hundreds of stamp issuing entities over the past 175+ years, and they issued hundreds of thousands of different postage & revenue stamps. Take off your blinders and expect a wide variety of formats - especialy with revenue stamps. They are made to accomplish a purpose and not necessarily fall into the articifial pigeonholes collectors have since created.

Consider this image of this lot currently for sale on the internet and note the edges:


Also, for your first and last stamps, these were printed in large press sheets and cut into quarters along the guidelines for retail distribution. A typical pane would have selvage on 2 sides and straight edges on the other two. Try an ebay search with the key words of revenue and sheet and see the variety.
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Thanks John. No blinders, just inexperience. I'm open to any and all variations. Thanks for answering one of my exact questions in my opening paragraph - booklet use for revenues?? As the adage goes - a picture is worth a 1000 words. Tks! ebay here I come…..
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Posted 07/24/2024   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have one or access to one read the intro section of the us specialized catalog, it will help your understanding of the terms and give some illustrations.
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