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What Category Is Those Ceskoslovensko Items And How To Evaluate

 
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Posted 08/14/2024   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mottaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




are they are some type of commemorative cancellations from post offices also how to evalute the rarity of some cancellations I search a lot only found three pcs for sale one for 5 $ another for 80 $ each, thanks in advance to whom can help.
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Posted 08/15/2024   01:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They do look like commemorative philatelic cancels. From the number you are showing, it is highly likely they exist in (relatively) large quantities. Having been cut out does not improve their value.
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Posted 08/15/2024   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea as to value but I find the last one on the bottom
interesting due to the multicolour postmark.
How was that done?
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Posted 08/15/2024   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the break in the outer circle: either printed or three separate strikes.
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Posted 08/15/2024   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That cancellation is for the Pardubice (I visited the town less than two months ago) speedway track. The date is that of the 1936 Grand Pardubice (Velká pardubická) speedway race (Golden Helmet).

And knowing what it was issued for gives the following hit (entire valued at less than USD 10)
https://philatelyclub.com/unt/35213...llation.html

Or a lot of info on these cancellations. Hint: learn Dutch! :-)
https://www.mfnl.nl/Nieuwsbrief/NB1...rdubice.html
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Edited by NSK - 08/15/2024 12:09 pm
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Posted 08/15/2024   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks dear NSK for your valuable help, regarding the number I show thats because I am work on a large stock of an old dealer classics from most countries some items is high valuable and not forgeries for swizerland and more I will try send photos for others to enjoy.
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Posted 08/15/2024   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would go further than lithograving and say it is a stunning cancellation with those three colours. There also is at least one other cancellation in two colours from Banská Bystrica, currently in Slovakia.

I have been in these towns. Philatelic items come so much more to life when there is a personal connection.

It is a pity someone cut these out of the original cover or card.
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Posted 08/15/2024   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dear NSK yes those arent lithographed printed they are cancellation strikes, for the cut out I think those arent from a cover or card because of the type of paper it thin paper like the one used for writing letters , so I think those aree made by a dealer on a paper then seperated.
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Posted 08/15/2024   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@mottaz, 'lithograving' is a member who posted in this thread he found the Pardubice cancellation interesting. I agree with this member.

The Dutch article has a lot of information on the Pardubice cancellation.
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Posted 08/15/2024   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks again for make it clear dear NSK
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Posted 08/15/2024   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@NSK, thanks for the link.


Quote:
The device pressed into separate stampings a combination of multiple colors on the piece to be stamped. The letter was put in and the stamps lined along the piece, to place their own color in just the right place. At first the device could only be used two colors, but once the technique was known, everything could, and therefore three and even four-color printing.
Google translate


I'm still not clear as to how it was done.
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Posted 08/16/2024   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The item was placed in the device. Three separate cancels (better parts of cancels) moved along the piece (note the piece was placed in the device, so the stamp moved along the device) into the correct position (over the piece) to apply each colour separately.
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Posted 08/16/2024   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mottaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i search for two items one canncellation is memorial for the semi final football match for Euorope 1936 between A.C . SPARTA and F.K . AUSTRIA and Austria lose the match cancelled by counter "a" , the other for the race of Golden Helmet 1936 also cancelled by counter "a".
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