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Posted 11/09/2024   06:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Rfw125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is another stamp I received in the job lot, this is obviously British , picture 109 in Sg, but I'm not very good with different printers. Can anyone tell what printer it is.
Waterlow, De La Rue or Bradbury Wilkinson.
There's a range of Sg numbers it could be.
399, 400
405, 406, 407 or 408
413a, 414, 415 or 415a
??????

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Posted 11/09/2024   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/09/2024   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rfw125 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent site, thanks very much
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Posted 11/11/2024   04:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is the printed image 22 mms high, or higher?
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Edited by NSK - 11/11/2024 08:21 am
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Posted 11/11/2024   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not able to see the file. The site says it cannot find it.
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Posted 11/11/2024   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Same link as rogdcam provided. It either does not work or does not work for everyone. Like shermae, it returns an error: 'Unable to find file /seahorses.txt.'
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Posted 11/11/2024   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, direct link to the article doesn't seem to work. You need to go first to the main page at:
https://www.nsdainc.org/

Then select the option for Articles and News Letters, and you should then pick this option:
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Posted 11/11/2024   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rfw125 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After you get to the first page you need to got to bottom and click on seahorses link
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Posted 11/11/2024   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rfw125 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK…it looks like it's 22.75 MM and looks as if it has a dot in the middle at the top, looks like a Bradbury Wilkinson
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Posted 11/11/2024   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Seahorses can be incredibly difficult to identify, but the NSDA guidelines are excellent and should be followed. Assuming horizontal lines, and a vertical measurement of close to 22.75, then the ID must be 179-181. The dot itself is sometimes strong, and sometimes weak or non-existent. Here are some closeups of my 179, 180 and 181 with the dot in the 179 very strong, 180 weaker, and 181 very weak, but there.




I once had a problem identifying my copy of 181, confusing it with the De La Rue 175c. Here are both of the stamps, with 181 a mint copy, and 175c used. Note that I added a red arrow to point out the larger top teeth seemingly seen in both the 181 and 175c.



The problem is, though, that the 181 vertical measurement is 22.75, as it should be, while the 175c vertical measurement is 22.0, as it should be. So, it just goes to show you that you need to follow the directions to positively identify your stamps. No matter how much I may desire that my 181 is showing the larger top teeth characteristic of a mint 175c, it is still only a 181 based on the 22.75 vertical measurement. Darn, a 181 mint is catalogued at about $425, while a 175c mint would be $3150.

Note that my used 175c has a damaged bottom right perf area, so also not the most desirable copy, but at least it qualifies.
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Posted 11/12/2024   02:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Rfw125,

I thought there was a dot as well but the dot must be well-centred and above the frame as Partime's examples show. Yours is not. Therefore, it cannot be the typical Bradbury-Wilkinson dot. It, probably, is part of the cancellation. However, the height of the stamp's image confirms it is a Bradbury-Wilkinson stamp.
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Posted 11/12/2024   04:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rfw125 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK
Thanks very much, very helpful.
Regards
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