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US Sc# 5789 Flag-Freedom Stamp, Imperforated?

 
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Posted 01/14/2025   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Deprotinator to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone seen an imperforated variety of US Scott #5789 before? I couldn't find it in the Scott specialized US book, but maybe it's too recent (issued in 2023). I bought this pair at a stamp show from a dealer who had a whole coil of these stamps.
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Posted 01/14/2025   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philazilla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i think that is a 5789A (going from memory) with die cutting omitted. I have a PNC5. at least 2 dealers are selling them.
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Posted 01/15/2025   12:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Deprotinator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! Appreciate your chiming in. I didn't even know PNC5 was a special way of collecting stamps. Had to Google it

I guess I should have asked that dealer for a PNC5 since he had a whole coil of these stamps…instead of just this random pair. Will keep in mind next time! Thanks!
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Posted 06/15/2025   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sandman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
any chance they are counterfeit?
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Posted 06/15/2025   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Deprotinator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I guess there's always a change but I would say no since they are a legitimate dealer who attended the annual san diego stamp show. I really hope the counterfeiting issue has not spread to dealers at stamp shows.
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Posted 06/24/2025   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the large press sheet is produced in both the perf & unperf'ed so try to determine if you have a 'cut-up' press sheet.
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Posted 06/24/2025   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think imperf press sheets of this issue were released. Scott normally lists them and prices gutter pairs etc., but those are not listed for this issue (sheet stamp 5787). Besides, the OP said they bought the imperf pair from a dealer who had an entire imperf coil roll. I have seen a few dealers selling them, including the PNC5. I think Scott is waiting to see how common they are before they list a price for them.

It is a good point, eligies. I have seen a popular NY stamp dealer auction modern "imperforate errors" on ebay that are just cutouts from press sheets, and they sometimes fetch high prices. A little knowledge is a critical thing.


Edit: clarified sheet stamp Scott number.
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Posted 06/24/2025   11:04 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These were not issued in press sheets (they've never done a press sheet for a coil)
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Posted 06/24/2025   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eligies may have been suggesting if the sheet stamp with the same design (Scott 5787) were sold as imperforate press sheets, would you be able to tell the difference between a horizontal pair from the imperf press sheet and an imperforate error of the coil?

The PF/PSE probably could differentiate by analyzing the edges under a microscope, but would an ordinary collector be able to tell? Is there any printing on the back side of either 5787 or 5789A to distinguish them?
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Posted 06/25/2025   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
guess I should have checked back to when Scott announced catalog #s for the issue in the multi formats. I just dismembered that sheet format ( not necessarily this issue) came in press sheets both perf & imperf. Maybe, thinking deeper, not definitive issues are issued in press sheets, just commemorative issues. HELP>>
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Posted 06/26/2025   9:06 pm  Show Profile Check philatomic's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatomic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There were no press sheets for the pane of 20, Scott 5787. There are typically no press sheets for definitives.
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Posted 06/26/2025   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Deprotinator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For a while I didn't quite know what to make of them, but now I am starting to see them pop up on HipStamp. So I guess they are getting around.
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Posted 06/27/2025   12:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Walkman82 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They're not from press sheets...if you look closely at the photo, you can see the coil roll roulette-type separators at the bottom.
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Posted 07/24/2025   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Related, a 5788a imperforate strip of 5 (not even a PNC) with certificate just sold for $3000 at Kelleher Auctions sale 815 lot 3220.

The 5788a has the USPS microprint below the lower left corner of the star field, the 5789a has the USPS microprint at the right of the lowest flag stripe.
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