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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum.  ***Hi, I have seen this £5 kangaroo and map stamp and although it appears to have been an entry into the 1911 post contest I cannot find any information about it anywhere on the internet. If anyone has any info or comments about the stamp, its history or its value, I'd love to hear it. Thanks in advance #9786;#65039;  
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Interesting. Can you give us a sharper scan of the front. It almost looks ink jet printed |
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I agree that it looks as though it was printed on an inkjet printer. When, in what year, did Australia issue a £5 kanagaroo stamp? |
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Let me first say this essay was not at the 1911 post contest . The Postmaster General Frazer pick a Horizonal stamp that had the Map and Kangaroo on it He started to work with Blamire Young and Rudolph Steel and they came up with the vertical design .
Your above stamp with rough perfs and poor quality paper would never appear at the contest due to quality of the essay .
If your stamp really was a essay I am sure it would of been in the Spink's or Shever Philatelic Galleries Auction of 2007 of the Arthur W. Gray collection .That is the collection that had most of the famous essays of the Map and Kangaroo issues .
Your's look more of a computer generated design. |
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Thank you for the reply, I must say I wasn't convinced of it being genuine in any way. It is not my stamp, I saw it on ebay Australia. It finishes today so keen to see how it goes... $92 so far |
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The bidders if they are real are idiots. In 2007 Shreves auctioned the Arthur W Gray collection of the Kangaroo and Map series described as: Quote:
The Kangaroo and Map Series has long been regarded as the classic issue of the Australian Commonwealth and are among the most popularly collected stamps in the world. The Arthur W. Gray Collection of the Kangaroo and Map Series is, quite simply, the finest and most comprehensive collection ever formed. In fact, not only has it won virtually every major stamp-exhibiting prize imaginable, it is one of the most highly regarded, and certainly one of the most valuable, single issue collections of any country.
The Gray Collection is replete with amazing essays and proofs, mint stamps - including varieties and errors of all kinds, as well as the finest representation of printer's monogram and imprint multiples ever offered in a single auction, unique first day covers and much more. Virtually all of the most famous rarities from this fascinating collecting field are present in the Gray collection. Needless to say not only is the ebay "essay" not in the collection, there is not one five Pound kangaroo in the collection. https://stampauctionnetwork.com/f/f89.cfm |
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Wow ,the price tells me it is not a computer made design but a hand drawn piece of art work .
It looks like bleached or clean stamp was used as a base and it is a hand drawn ,that explains the rough perforations and the dark staining of the stamp .
Looks like someone knew that Australia needed a five pounder . Most high value Aussy stamps were used for shipping of bags from the Gold fields . They were placed on bags with tags attached ,we see the same with the
British New Guinea Bulolo Goldfield 5 pound green issue . |
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Per my 2013 ACSC, this is a type 3 essay. This was printed imperforate, up to 20/- value. It was also printed line perf 11 1/2 up to 20/- value in turquoise and red-orange, and pale brown and red-orange. Therefore, I would have to assume this is a fake.
If real, it would probably fetch north of AUS$80,000.
I'm sure this was discussed on an Australian stamp forum, but I'm afraid to look. |
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The 5 pound stamp may have been part of a public stamp competition from 1911. See newspaper article below from 1911. The five pound stamp image is very similar to the essays referred to by Partime (10 and 20 shillings} which can be seen in the 2007 Shreves catalogue mentioned by Rogdcam. A kangaroo design is mentioned at the bottom of the article. The postal authorities were not committed to adopting any of the designs.  |
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Have a look at the other material offered by the seller. Some of the NSW material is, well, we have forged Sydney Views, a Laureate reprint, a deperforated 5d diadem, all in amongst perfectly genuine material. The 'no returns accepted' policy is a massive red flag, as is the seller's feedback. Either the seller knows what he is selling, or he doesn't. There's no way to truly know, but I'd wager it's the latter. A little bit of knowledge is a very dangerous thing as they say. I struggle to have sympathy for the buyer though. Call me cynical but who's parting with that sort of money on something they clearly know little or nothing about? And by the way, on the item in question, if Arthur Gray didn't have one, then it doesn't genuinely exist. Yep, very satisfied with my decision to dump ebay |
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