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Hello, long time since last visit. Could use the brain of fellow collectors with below stamp:  It resembles the 1870 Bank Note series, but clearly is not the real deal. My hunch is that this is some very old forgery, possibly o european origin (as it comes from early Senf's album). Any help with this would be highly appreciated. Cheers. |
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| Edited by scb - 08/10/2025 06:06 am |
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Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Definitely a forgery, and a poor one at that. Possibly created simply to fill a space in an album. Which is why most 19th century forgeries were created in the first place since that was how most people collected at the time, filling every space in an album. |
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United States
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With this it is easier to say what it is not, and you have already said that; i.e. not authentic 30c Bank Note.
Chances are it is an album illustration for a 30c Bank Note.
You might check with the APRL for Earie, Album Weeds or one of the other early forgery detectors to see if a familiar image pops up.
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| Edited by essayk - 08/10/2025 2:17 pm |
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Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Why would an illustration actually be perforated? Drawn perfs, sure, but not actual ones. Or a cancel for that matter. |
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United States
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When were those features added? Or are you assuming that they are original to the image? |
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Belgium
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Anyway, this is a very interesting item, rarer than the original  If is was mine I'd place it aside of the real thing. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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It looks like a cutout from an album page or similar that a child or childish adult colored with a marker and perforated with something like pinking shears. They never imagined that it could become the topic of discussion on a stamp forum. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Why would anyone bother with that much effort? The cancel dates is part of the original print, not something added later. The paper it is printed on would help tell where it might have come from. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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Children and some adults have a lot of free-time on their hands. What else to do pre-internet. I think it was this because little effort was made to keep the weird orange in the lines and the perforations are laughable (Rectangular?). |
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There appear to be some arched black lines that may have simulated the perforations. Some have been perforated away, some remain. This would fit the theory that someone cut a picture out of an album or magazine and perforated it, rather than this being a very badly perforated forgery that was then enhanced with arched black lines where they should not be. |
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Why would anyone producing a forgery to fill an album space go through the trouble of adding them? It is likelier they were part of an image that was cut out from an album or a magazine that was perforated. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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There are plenty of forgeries that were produced with fake cancels. The large newspaper stamps come to mind, there are a lot of those. |
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Yes, some of the most famous forgeries have fake cancellations. But the black arches that can be seen near perforation holes on the lefthand side, at top left and in the lower left corner are no cancellations, they appear to have been simulated (drawn) perforations. That, is not common in forged stamp but it was in illustrations of stamps. |
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| Edited by NSK - 08/11/2025 08:38 am |
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What's the back look like? I like it. I would definitely display it right with the others. |
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