A Couple Of Weird Ones I Can't Figure Out...

Following are a couple of weird ones I found. The first one looks like some sort of Asian stamp, but it is wafer thin. Practically see through and seems to be half the thickness of a regular stamp. Almost looks as if it was printed on rice paper.

The second one I am not even sure if it is a stamp or not, but it was mixed in with my father's stamp collection so I assume it is a stamp of some sort.

Any thoughts on either of them would be much appreciated as always.

This is the second one.

The 2nd stamp is listed in SG under North West Russia. Northern Army. It's part of a set of 5 issued 1919.
OKSA = Osobiy Korpus Severnoy Armiy (Special Corps, Northern Army)
Issues made for use by the various Anti-bolshevist Armies during the Russian Civil War, 1918-20 (Note in SG)

The first stamp is East China, Liberation of Nanking and Shanghai 1949 - minimal value in my antique Gibbons

Wow, that is amazing on the second one. I wasn't even sure it was a stamp. Thanks. Here is listing from it in 2009 Scott. Cheers.



The coloring of mine seems a bit different than the catalog, but close enough.

That "Army of the North" set was heavily forged, even though it is a very common stamp.

The pic you provided shows a forgery, not a genuine 10k stamp.

The original was printed on an off-white paper, sometimes appearing to have a bluish tint. The edges of both swords should be double-lines, not thick single lines. Also, the cross inside the wreath should be very well defined (especially the inside corners), not the poorly define slightly rounded corners.

Forgeries were printed on several paper types. Any 10k stamp printed on the buff/brownish paper is definitely a forgery. Ones printed on other paper types, you need to check the design differences mentioned in the preceding paragraph.

Still, a nice stamp to have. This is one set that is not too difficult to get a complete set of genuine AND a complete set of forgeries.

Thanks for posting the pic!

k

This is going to sound crazy, considering the catalogue values you just displayed, but yours appears to be a forgery. Genuine examples have each edge of the sword composed of two lines, instead of one thick line, and the cross below the carpenter's square is cleanly depicted. The curves of the ribbons also differ.

The paper should be off-white.

So, you have a philatelic curiosity, I'd say. I'm guessing they were printed up for the packet trade of an earlier time.

Collin

Forgery sounds like a plausible conclusion. The stamp almost looks like it was printed on a piece of brown paper bag.

Wow! So much information, so little time....