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Franklin Mark (Pre-Stamp Covers)

 
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Posted 09/08/2025   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add X38 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am having a hard time finding the date of the first "Franklin Mark" on a stampless cover in the colonial era. This would be the same as the Bishop Mark in Great Britain except without the line in the middle separating the date and month.

I am seeing mixed dates from as early as the 1750s to the 1760s. Do any books on the topic state the date of the first cover?

Thank you!
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Posted 09/08/2025   12:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could you please supply a scan to help some of us understand what you are asking for?
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Posted 09/08/2025   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sure thing. This is from the Hamilton Philatelic organization.
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Posted 09/08/2025   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You probably already reviewed this, but I found a link to Stanley Gibbons which may be helpful:

https://www.stanleygibbons.com/coll...op-postmarks

It looks like the Franklin Mark is referred to as the "American Colonies" and has a date range of 1757 to 1801 on the full article that can be downloaded from that site.

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Posted 09/08/2025   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Partime. Yes, I did have a chance to review it unfortunately it does not specifically say what year the earliest cover is from. Hopefully someone in the community collects these marks
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Posted 09/09/2025   10:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This page from Tom Clarke's A Catalog of Philadelphia Postmarks shows the earliest known use date of October 1765. Has anyone seen Franklin Marks without the bisect line prior to this date? What do you think led to the removal of the bisect line?
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I believe the only (US) colonial office using a handstamp as early as 1757 was New York. So if the 1757 date from Gibbons holds, it's presumably a New York cover. ASCC doesn't specifically track dates of use of those, but notes that the latest reported use of that marking from New York (April 1, 1760) has a franklin mark.

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Posted 09/09/2025   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you paperhistory. Do you happen to know if the Franklin Mark is without the bisect line or similar to the Bishop Mark in Great Britain? Would you mind posting an image of the page referencing the New York April 1, 1760 date?

I am surprised it lists the latest available use as 1760 when SG has these marks till 1801.
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Posted 09/09/2025   6:29 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Franklin marks by definition don't have the line. That's what makes them franklins and not bishops. None of the US markings have a line so far as I know.

The 1760 date is the specific last use of the particular New York straightline handstamps. Franklins show up broadly (especially NYC, Boston, and Philadelphia) to the end of the 18th century and into the first year of the 19th.

ASCC is available free online via the classics society (always worth downloading). There is also some front material that at least mentions franklin markings (which, as I noted, don't get much specific attention in ASCC, which focuses on town markings).
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Posted 09/09/2025   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the detailed reply. The reason I am asking these questions is because I suspect the Stanley Gibbons timeline includes Bishop Marks used in Colonial America. From what I can see there are virtually no covers prior to 1765 that have a true Franklin Mark (no bisect line as you noted). This begs the question what development in 1765 led to the creation of the Franklin Mark? Could it be related to The Stamp Act of 1765 passed on March 22, 1765?

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Posted 09/09/2025   8:49 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, I will correct myself. Apparently the early New York covers have a Bishop, with the line.

This Siegel auction has 1757 and 1758 examples from NYC. The auction may have other interesting colonial material.

https://stampauctionnetwork.com/y/y11713.cfm

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Edited by paperhistory - 09/09/2025 8:51 pm
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Posted 09/09/2025   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add X38 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing. Do you think my theory makes sense? The creation of the Franklin Mark seems to be from 1765 onwards...
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