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The point made is not that the Yorkshire guy should know his name is on a list. The point made is that an American shipper should know he is on a list.
Yet, it appears that, if a name is on a list, everyone with that name is a baddy. |
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Ireland
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I don't see how anybody should be assumed to make the connection between a guy in England and somebody with a PARTIALLY similar name who is involved with the Iranian government. If I sold something to somebody in England, even if I looked at that list, nowhere would I conclude "Actually, I can't send to this guy because there is a guy with a similar name in Iran on this list". I also don't get why people are confused about why the original poster is annoyed / frustrated by this. He got paid money to send an item, it had expensive postage, and now he is out the postage money and will have to refund the purchase cost. All because the American government doesn't like the name of the guy he sold to. Seems pretty reasonable to be annoyed about that. |
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Nor do I, but OP has been told: Quote: It was your violation Quote: The lists are published by the relevant government agencies and all exporters are presumed to know them. Either OP has not violated a restriction, or Yorkshire laddie is somewhere on that list. |
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| Edited by NSK - 09/24/2025 05:41 am |
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This discussion has centered around the list that we can see. There are other lists that we cannot see. Whether or not it is fair for Alub to know beforehand has no bearing on the USG not wanting this person to have this mail. What is definitely unfair was for this person to use Alub. After six war years in Iraq and Afghanistan I actually tend to give our government the benefit of the doubt because it can be quite shocking who is involved or capable of what. |
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After the US invasion of Iraq, based on fake "intelligence", I decline to give its governments the benefit of any doubt whatsoever. |
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United Kingdom
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Loads of Abdul Karims in Bradford. Also the National Science and Media Museum. |
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Quote: Loads of Abdul Karims in Bradford. Maybe all of Bradford is on the list. Would you blame them? |
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| Edited by NSK - 09/24/2025 09:37 am |
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United States
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Quote: Full lawful service was provided, just not as you expected. I paid for international mail and received domestic service. |
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Quote: I paid for international mail and received domestic service. An it was handled as international mail with, first and international review by US Customs and a review for unauthorized persons to who you tried, , but all contrary to law, to send an item internationally. The failure fall 100% on you with the USPS providing ALL LAWFUL INTERNATIONAL SERVICE. Sorry but it was addressed internationally an handled as international mail matter by the postal service. Failure of international delivery was your fault, the USPS did nothing wrong nor failed to provide correct international service. Be happy it was returned to you and not destroyed as contraband which it was in the manner you sent it. Video review requested, review made, and the referee decision is: you lose. |
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Quote: I don't see how anybody should be assumed to make the connection between a guy in England and somebody with a PARTIALLY similar name who is involved with the Iranian government. If I sold something to somebody in England, even if I looked at that list, nowhere would I conclude "Actually, I can't send to this guy because there is a guy with a similar name in Iran on this list". I also don't get why people are confused about why the original poster is annoyed / frustrated by this. He got paid money to send an item, it had expensive postage, and now he is out the postage money and will have to refund the purchase cost. All because the American government doesn't like the name of the guy he sold to. Seems pretty reasonable to be annoyed about that. Being Ireland absolves you from USA export restrictions from USA territories, including those in your country as long as you are not trying to mail from the US Territory located in Ireland. |
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Quote: everyone with that name is a baddy. As it should be until the non-baddy takes the steps to remove themselves from the list. Such prohibited mailing by name or address and said listing have existed for over a century in the US Postal Service. Nothing new here. |
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Quote: As it should be until the non-baddy takes the steps to remove themselves from the list. Do you actually expect that this government will remove ANYONE with a name they don't like (whether there is actually any proof of wrongdoing or not) from any list???? They have spent a lot of time proving that they don't care in the least, and will lie endlessly about the kinds of people they don't like. |
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"A rebellious, hard-living factory worker juggles relationships with two women, one of whom is married to another man but pregnant with his child"
I bet Abdul was looking forward to seeing that, in flickering black-and-white, as the ice cream lady comes down the aisle. |
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Mistaken identity due to a "false positive" name match on the SDN list is a known issue. The agencies provide ways to address it and have done so for decades, regardless of the party in control of the White House. Erroneous denial of airline boarding based on a false positive match to the "no-fly" list(s) is a similar issue. By providing documentation and working with USPS and, if necessary, OFAC, a person can usually resolve the matter and demonstrate that the recipient is not the blocked individual. Begin by gathering documents that clearly establish the recipient's identity and current address, such as a government-issued ID, utility bill, or lease, along with any USPS notice explaining the refusal. Contact USPS Customer Service (1-800-ASK-USPS) to explain that this is a mistaken identity issue and offer the documentation. Ask about their process for clearing false positives and be prepared to submit information for an internal review or, if needed, to the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC). You can also contact OFAC's Compliance Hotline (1-800-540-6322) or OFAC_Feedback@treasury.gov to request guidance or a "false hit" determination letter. Emphasize any differences between the recipient's details and the SDN entry, such as date of birth, nationality, or address, and provide a brief written statement if helpful. Keep copies of all communications and follow up regularly until the review is complete. Make clear that only the name matches the SDN entry and that the other identifying information does not. Highlight the recipient's different location, country, and any other biographical details that distinguish the recipient from the listed individual. Express a willingness to provide whatever documentation is necessary to verify the identity and resolve the screening error. If USPS still refuses delivery after you have supplied proof, escalate to a supervisor or the USPS Consumer Advocate and request a formal review. Consider seeking a formal determination from OFAC that the match is a false positive. For high-value or time-sensitive shipments, consult an attorney experienced in sanctions or export controls to help expedite resolution. |
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…or keep the address and change the name. Royal Mail, in general, deliver to the address not the person. So if I send a letter to Degenerate Bawd, The Pavilions, Bedminster Down, Bridgwater Road, Bristol, BS13 8AR the Central Electricity Generating Board will receive it.
A. Karimonovsky? |
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