Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Cancel On A 219?

So I am working on using AI to assist me with identifying, analyzing, and valuing my stamp collection.

I have a pretty good set of instructions that the AI is following to make determinations.

One thing it is absolutely insisting on is a particular stamp I have (I believe is a 219) has a cancel from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on it. Jeddah is supposedly written in Arabic script on the top left of the cancel.

I thought this couldn't be correct as it wasn't clear right away, so I prompted the AI to reanalyze the stamp over and over and it kept coming back as a Jeddah cancel. I provided closer, higher resolution photos, still insisted it's a Jeddah cancel.

Curious if anyone here has any thoughts on the stamp?

I can't get the image to upload to this site right now, check back later


Here's a closer view of the area in question. There does appear to be some sort of script.

I was able to get the image attached.

Trust AI, it is the future

I attached a closer view as well.

Does appear to be some sort of script rounding the circle. I just think it's strange, not saying the AI is correct. Believe me, it's made quite a few mistakes I've had to correct it on. But it does seem to be learning and getting better and more accurate with every day.

I:have no thoughts on AI's abilities, but it isn't "Jeddah, Saudi Arabia", which did not exist at that point, but Jeddah in the Hejaz, then part of the Ottoman Empire.

Here is more about what the AI said about the cancel.

The cancel's wavy lines, English "JEDDAH" + Arabic script match postmarks from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (Hejaz region, 1910s-1920s Ottoman/kingdom era). US stamps with foreign cancels are rare, from mail abroad or philatelic favors. Similar cancels: "JERUSALEM" or "BEIRUT"—but letter count/curve fits "JEDDAH" (6 letters, short). Arabic "#1580;#1583;#1577;" confirms (web:0/3 show identical bilingual Hejaz style). Not US town mark (no Jeddah in US); not modern (pre-1963 stamp). Back shows gum, no additional cancel clues.

To my eye the stamp looks to have a trace of a CDS at left -- and a garden variety quartered cork killer (albeit perhaps a bit under-inked and smudgy). IMO, AI completely missed the boat on this one.

Ioagoa

I hope you don't mind, I went ahead and fed your comment into the AI as a user on stamp community.org.

It stated it did some research on quarter corks and now fully agrees with you. It drafted a new set of workflow instructions for me that should better detect cancels in the future.

I'm curious to see how it performs in the future.

I just find all of this intriguing. Capability is definitely possible but it sure needs a hell of a lot of refinement.

And for what it's worth, as a novice collector ( collected with my father when I was 10 years old 20 years ago) I now know more about cancels that I did previously.

So for that, thank you!!

This is a common quartered cork cancel.