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Collecting By Engraver

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Posted 08/01/2011   03:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Getting your printer colour calibrated is pretty easy once you have your monitor screen setup. There are some devices that can help if you know someone that has one to lend or hire.
I use 3rd party cartridges in my printer as they are a 1/10th of the price and produce identical results.
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Posted 08/01/2011   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nethryk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stefan Lukaszewski (1918- ) designed and/or engraved many stamps for Poland during the 1950s. Here are images of four of them.

- nethryk

Polish Eagle, postage due stamp designed by Ryszard Kleczewski, issued in 1950, Scott No. J119.


Fisherman, SS Chopin, and trawlers, designed by Lukaszewski, and issued on March 16, 1956, Scott No. 723.


Joseph Conrad (1857-1924) Polish-born English novelist, and clipper ship Torrens, designed by Lukaszewski, and issued on December 30, 1957, Scott No. 797.


Mail coach in the Kielce District, after a painting by Polish artist Apoloniusz Kedzierski (1861-1939), issued on October 26, 1958, Scott No. 829.


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Posted 08/01/2011   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since this thread is title Collecting by Engraver should Typographed stamps also be
included here ? What's the opinion from rest of you engraving fanatics ?
After all most typographed stamps have been engraved as well but instead of
scratching, or etching an image onto a soft die (recess) , the engraver cuts away
sections of the die and the raised (relief) areas remaining are inked & printed
on the paper.

See the simplistic diagram below.

The red areas show the the ink which will be pressed
unto the paper.




(a) Typography (Letterpress)

(b) Engraving (intaglio, recess, gravure )

(c) Lithography (Offset )

A good example would be the Austrian set issued in 1908 for the
60th year of the reign of Emperor Franz Josef.

The 11 lower values were engraved by Ferdinand Schirnböck (1859-1930) but printed
via typography whereas the 7 high values were also engraved by Schirnböck
but printed by way of engraved recess plates.

Typographed






Engraved

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Edited by lithograving - 10/05/2019 02:20 am
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Posted 08/01/2011   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nethryk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lithograving - I'm a (b) man. - nethryk
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Edited by nethryk - 08/01/2011 4:04 pm
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Posted 08/01/2011   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks nethryk.
So you're saying NOT to include typographed stamps where the
engraver is known and to limit this thread purely to engraved stamps.

Correct?

How about a separate Typographed thread, would that interest you at all?
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Spain
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Posted 08/01/2011   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AndrewF31 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another thread could be interesting. Better not to confuse the viewers.
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Posted 08/01/2011   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Andrew. We have 2 against.

Perhaps a separate thread would be best since Typographed
stamps have a beauty all their own.

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Posted 08/01/2011   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AndrewF31 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not easy for me to distinguish. Don't have a good eye. Only thing that I do notice is the Typographed stamp looks more smooth in some parts.
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Edited by AndrewF31 - 08/01/2011 5:38 pm
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Posted 08/01/2011   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
smooth is a good word for them, I like it.

Actually the first two Austrian stamps were initially
printed on chalky paper which makes them look quite smooth;
although it doesn't really show on my scans.
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Posted 08/01/2011   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AndrewF31 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
will be interested in seeing some more examples. They have an engraved scent but with a different essence.

Which countries use typography? Or used?
Doesn't seem Sweden used it much. All the catalogue mentions is offset, steel engraving recess and half-tone recess, whatever that is.

Apart from that other thread, where could I go to learn about printing and stamp designs? Just so I'm not a complete baffoon. May not help much because of my 'good eye' hah but it's always something.
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Posted 08/01/2011   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think up to the mid century many countries printed typographed
stamps since it was fast and cheap and very little quality control
was needed.

Some of the earliest multicolour stamps were printed using
this method either totally typographed or combined
with one colour engraving.

Since it had it's limitations it was slowly supplanted
by the equally low cost lithography (offset) and now it's
rarely used.
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Posted 08/01/2011   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

Which countries use typography? Or used?


Well most British stamps up to 1934 were typographed until
they switched over to photogravure.

Many German definitives such as the Germanias,Hindenburg, Hitler
and other issues were also printed typo .


As far as now, I don't know of any.

Germany did print their Scenic Views definitives via
a type of typography up to 2001
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Posted 08/01/2011   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nethryk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lithograving - Correct. Perhaps starting another thread would make sense so as to avoid any possible confusion. Although my collection consists overwhelmingly of intaglio engraved stamps, I do also have a few nice typographed stamps that I would be happy to scan and post there. - nethryk
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Posted 08/01/2011   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AndrewF31 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, so I probably don't have any. Will certainly bookmark and subscribe to the thread to catch onto the interesting examples.
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Posted 08/01/2011   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just finished supper and saw both of your posts.

OK then so be it. I will start a new thread about
typographed stamps and their engravers.

Andrew, you probably do have a few examples.

Portugal issued a number of typographed stamps including
the Ceres definitives and the Ancient Sailing Vessels issued
in 1943 & 1948/9
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