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After a few people mentioned that China is a hot country right now I decided to go through my grab bags of canceled stamps to see what I might have from China. I had some, not much, but what I was able to identify so far wasn't really worth anything. I am left with 4 strips here of stamps I couldn't find in my search through Scott for matching China stamps and some of them very well may not even be Chinese anyway. If I knew the Chinese alphabet that would of course make all this much easier, but maybe in my next lifetime. Anyway, here we go. Any identification help you can offer on any of these with Scott numbers would be much appreciated. Many thanks as always. Marc Strip 1 - Stamp #1 looks like it could be Laotian or Burmese. Stamp #2 looks like some kind of overprint. Stamp #3 Could be Korean I am thinking. Stamp #4 could also be Korean maybe.  Strip 2 - Stamp #1 I am pretty sure is Chinese since you have Confucius and the Ying & Yang symbol on there. Stamp #2 also looks to have some form of the Chinese flag. Stamp #3 again has the Ying & Yang symbol so probably Chinese.  Strip 3 - Stamp #1 looks to be some sort of Chinese overprint. The other 3 I don't have a clue, but they do look like early 1900 period stamps.  Strip 4 - Stamp #1 and #2 are possibly the China A95 type, but I am not sure if they are because postage denominations don't match. Stamp #3 looks more like either a Korean or Japanese stamp, but it looks to have a Peking cancel. Stamp #4 is Indo China, but it has a Canton overprint so I thought it might be Chinese of some sort. 
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| Edited by marcbkk - 08/14/2010 02:23 am |
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Quote: I am pretty sure is Chinese since you have Confucius and the Ying & Yang symbol on there The "ying-yang" symbol as you refer to it, is always South Korea. The circlar petals design is always Japan, (stamp 3 top) It is the Chrysanthemum, and always has 16 petals If it has 17 petals it is a forgery. Stamp 9 and 11 is Manchukuo 8 is a chinese famine relief stamp (nice!) not postal second last is China 1961 8 fen stamp 1 is Japanese occupation of Burma stamp 4 is Japanese occupation of the Philippines stamp 6, 12 and 13 are all China~East China Stamp 2 is China 1950 $50 on 10c surcharge "whistling cranes" Last stamp is French Post Ofices in Canton. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 08/14/2010 03:08 am |
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These are good for mental acrobatics Spock :) First time I have ID'd a list, and had all the stamps, (but not the famine relief :(
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Rod you are a machine, many thanks!! Let me please re-summarize what you wrote to make sure I understand since I still can't find many of them.
Stamp #1 - Japanese occupation of Burma - Found under Japan in Scott? Stamp #2 - China 1950 overprint - It seems it could be Type A103, but I don't see anything in blue with that denomination listed in Scott as an overprint? Stamp #3 - Do you know the Japan Scott # perhaps? I couldn't find it Stamp #4 - Found under Japan or Philippines? Stamp #5 - Do you know the Korea Scott # perhaps? I couldn't find it Stamp #6 - China - East China - Again do you happen to know Scott #? I couldn't find it under China Stamp #7 - Do you know the Korea Scott # perhaps? I couldn't find it Stamp #8 - Chinese Famine Relief - Found in Scott? Not a postal stamp? Stamp #9 - Manchukuo - Found it - Scott #88 Stamp #10 - Do you know the Japan Scott # perhaps? I couldn't find it Stamp #11 - Manchukuo - Found it - Scott #6 Stamp #12 - China - East China - Again do you happen to know Scott #? I couldn't find it under China, but looks a bit like Type A95 Stamp #13 - China - East China - Again do you happen to know Scott #? I couldn't find it under China, but looks a bit like Type A95 Stamp #14 - China 1961 - I looked under 1961, but didn't see it. Stamp #15 - I looked under France in Canton in Scott, but couldn't find it. It appears it might be 1923 and in the Scott #54 to #74 range, but again not sure. |
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Sorry to discombobulate you, I was not going to answer at first, because I am aware of the difference between Scott and Gibbons, but then I thought I could assist the Gibbons tribe who collect the images. If no one has chimed in by tomorrow, I'll do my best, but there are so many intelligentsia here, I am sure someone will pop up with Scott numbers.  Number 3 is a tricky one, I had trouble with it myself a few years back, I only have Gibbons: SG0417 (1945) T146 10s [1m0] imperf orange.jpg Scott may be close to that number, but I wouldn't bet the castle. BTW: If you just happened to get frustrated, or even angry at the inability to locate issues, just let me say this is quite normal for early collectors. It is part of the "right of passage" and generally gets easier after the first year or so, I still get issues I cannot find, thanks to SCF that is not for long though. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 08/14/2010 05:46 am |
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u should become like me rod
get ird of both scott and gibbons and adopt emperor spock |
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Thanks Rodney. No worries. I am patient and I don't get frustrated with it. I have at times, but mainly because I needed a break after spending so many hours looking at them. Now I know better. When I reach that point I put them away and either do something else or move onto other stamps instead. And since most of these oldies I am trying to locate aren't worth much anyway, it is nothing worth losing sleep over so I don't. Just more for curiosity and organization purposes at this point. Surprisingly, even though I am entirely new at this, I am usually able to locate 80%-90% of the stuff on my own, but some mysteries are never meant to be solved I guess :) |
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| Edited by marcbkk - 08/14/2010 06:20 am |
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let me telly ou about the greates bag of pennies ever found.
it was one nice day in july a bag came and the rest is history
but the bottomline is sorting it was major headache and I used to take breaks :) |
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Thanks for this thread, I have most of these stamps and am just getting to "C" in my A-Z cataloging.... Nice timing, guys!  |
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Thank you very much Zhang Cheng. It is very kind of you to help me. I found them all now. They are listed under "China, People's Republic Of" in Scott. That is why I did not see them the first time. I was looking under "Republic of China". I am not sure what year your Scott catalogs are, but the page numbers in 2009 have changed a little bit. I guess yours are 2007 or 2008? Again, many thanks. |
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| Edited by marcbkk - 08/14/2010 10:13 am |
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You are welcome Marcbkk , yes my Scott Catalog is 2008 edition, I forgot to explain this...but looks this did not stop you.  Please just feel free to post the questions here, there are a lot of like-minded people will help each other. |
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Thanks again Zhang Cheng and yes, everyone on this forum has been very helpful.
I found the 2 Korean stamps in Scott. They are numbers #275 and #372.
I found the Japan Burma occupation stamp under Burma. It is Scott #2N44 - 1943
I found the orange colored Japanese stamp which has no teeth. It is Scott 355.
Stamp #10 above, the 13 Sen Japanese stamp, is Japan 1925 - Scott #138
The Japan occupation of the Philippines stamp was under Philippines. Scott # N15
I still can't find the Indo Chinne French occupation stamp of Canton in Scott?
I am also still curious about the Famine Relief Stamp. Does it have any value? |
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Marc, we call stamps with no teeth, "imperforate" Every stamp has value, but in the main issues like the famine relief are minimal AFAIK, that does not mean it does not have "wow" factor to some collectors. I often pay $10 -$20 for a page of "back of book" stuff I call "floorsweepings" just the flotsam and jetsam of philately, I take out the one or two bits I want, and put the rest back to auction. I would do this if I saw your famine relief. I like them :) For your reason however, I don't think that label would hold any value if sold as a single item. I think your canton will be in Vol 2 "French Offices abroad" overprinted canton in red with chinese figures.  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 08/16/2010 12:07 am |
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