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Why Is This 238 So Cheap?

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Posted 10/13/2010   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am really starting to get paranoid about this stuff.
Any opinions on why this is so cheap? it has a BIN of $32.00

described as mint light hinge





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Posted 10/13/2010   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What's going on in the lower right corner there? Perhaps a repair with a piece of hinge? Gum looks really shiny . . . but I don't know squat about 19th century gum.
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LRC is the hinge remnant according to description.
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I may be wrong, but is this stamp regummed?
I thought the the gum of the period had a yellowish color to it.
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Edited by warrehouse - 10/13/2010 12:16 pm
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Posted 10/13/2010   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert, but I would agree the gum looks suspicious (too good). Also the pulled perf at the bottom center will detract from its value. Maybe I'm the one that's paranoid, but the side perfs don't look quite right. I maybe wrong on that, but I'm looking at it for a couple of minutes now and the left side seems to have "deeper" perfs than the right. (I know some of the lower value Columbians were notorious for having straight edges, so it just makes me wonder.)
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Posted 10/13/2010   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Any opinions on why this is so cheap?


Daryl,

Current SMQ market value for a graded Fine OGph is $110 and that is without any short perfs.

I agree with the others that the reverse looks a little too clean for the issue. I've got seven OG of that series and they all have a yellowish tint.

Lastly, I find the lower right corner a bit odd for hinge placement and have to wonder why it was placed there.

Take it for what it's worth but remember that I'm the guy that fell for the altered 114!

Steve

EDIT: The SMQ value for a fine used 238 is $38.
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Edited by tomiseksj - 10/13/2010 1:19 pm
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Posted 10/13/2010   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steve,
I agree that the gum looks suspicious.. it is too clean... I don't know of any mint stamp from that era with white gum

I guess I will pass on this as well..

I think for now, I will just stick to VF-Used versions of the stamp series...
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Posted 10/13/2010   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two brown spots on top edge. Definitely regummed. Also looks like it may have been reperfed and repaired, and likely any other re- that you can think of. You are wise to pass.
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Posted 10/13/2010   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Kim
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Posted 10/13/2010   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are welcome, Daryl!

If I may, I would like to suggest a book to all who are purchasing classic US stamps with catalog values of $100+: "How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps" by Paul W. Schmid.

It is a very inexpensive book that has pretty decent coverage over the basics. The book will more than pay for itself over the course of the years by helping to weed out quite a few altered/repaired stamps. The early US stamps (especially mint), are unfortunately a real minefield. There were (and unfortunately still are) dealers churning out fake/altered stamps. Take the time to learn the info in the book (thin paperback, not a novel). It is well-written and has a decent number of illustrations and tables.

Just a thought.

k

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Posted 10/13/2010   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I would like to suggest a book


Thanks for the suggestion Kim.

Daryl, good luck on that 239!
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Posted 10/13/2010   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see a crease across the lower right corner just below the Y following the line of the outer edge of the Y. Perhaps the hinge is there to strengthen that corner.
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Posted 10/13/2010   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prince Afa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks khj,

Just checked Amazon and was able to order one for $11.47 used.

My problem now is that my stamp library and albums are growing faster than my stamps!!

But you are SO right. Even for small buyers like me, $12 is nothing.
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Posted 10/13/2010   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steve, I got the 239
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Posted 10/13/2010   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't make it very clear in my earlier post. The book provides general info, but does focus primarily on US stamps.
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Posted 10/13/2010   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kim,
Of course you made it clear, it was clear to me..

I really didn't think the 238 was right, which is why I posted here... Why buy a book when there are so many detectives and knowledgeable people here?
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