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Jokake Arizona Precancel

 
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Posted 11/10/2010   01:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add peterc8888 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Which stamps are known to have the Jokake, Arizona precancel?
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Posted 11/10/2010   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm currently at work & don't have my catalog to check. I'll try when I get home!
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Posted 11/10/2010   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peterc8888, There is nothing listed for Jokake before 1938. There is a note stating most copies are are perfined, so with that said, someone with a perfins catalog maybe able to find out what issues may have been used.
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Posted 11/11/2010   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterc8888 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks warrehouse. It may be quite hard to see precancel on a perfined stamp.
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Posted 11/11/2010   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ryan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found this scan on another forum, supposedly of a Jokake precancel. I don't see any other info on that precancel, so I can't really say. The image in the PSS catalogue looks just as fuzzy, for what that's worth.

My catalogue for perfinned precancels lists only two example for the whole state of AZ, both of them with Phoenix precancels.

Ryan


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Posted 11/11/2010   03:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterc8888 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ryan,

I believe you found that scan from this forum http://www.iusc.org/archives/archiv...070304.html. That scan was posted by my friend. Unfortunately, my friend also does not have any additional info on that precancel.
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While surfing through the precancel stamp society Forum archives [highly recommended], I found some more interesting info on Jokake. See page 5: http://www.precancels.com/Forums/19...r%201984.pdf
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Edited by chasa - 06/30/2011 11:18 pm
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Posted 07/01/2011   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beezer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My town and type shows this precancel as a type L-1 HS; however, determining the types of stamps that have this precancel with any degree of accuracy would be extremely difficult if not impossible.
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Let's see if I can get this straight. Based on the link provided above, it can be said that:

1. Jokake, Arizona is not a town but was an old time hotel/resort. (Here's a postcard from the hotel in it's heydey.):



2. According to Jim Forte's Postal History website, a post office existed there only from 1936 to 1944. In that short a timeframe (8 years), it would seem there would be a very limited number of stamps destined to be used for precancels.

3. If we go with the statement in the link provided, there are only 10-12 copies of a precanceled stamp known to exist for Jokake. Complicating this count is the fact that most (all) of the precancels were done with pen ink and not stamp pad ink, resulting in poor print adhesion and questionable read quality, making some of these precancels totally illegible.

5. All precanceled stamps for Jokake were of the L-1 HS type and are said to be quite rare.


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