Could This Be A 279Bc?

hi all again

please know that I always appreciate all you guys help

i do not know if I ever posted this stamp before
i have been told that this stamp was a 279Bc [rose carmine] many years ago
this is a mnh stamp
i have seen that it would be a very valuable stamp
i understand that I would need to get it certified before I would consider selling it

the top selvage was attached before and was very lose so I removed it
please give me your thoughts

thanks as always

dan

Scanner and screen settings make it difficult to see the actual color. The color that I see is a medium carmine.

i just compared the stamp and the photo posted here and there does seem a difference
i think that the stamp is much lighter in color

The difference is not just a difference in lightness/darkness but a difference in hue. 279Bc has a definite pink color to it. Your scan does not show any hint of pink.

it may be wishful thinking but the stamp does appear to have some pink in it, but I am not sure, [my eyes are not what they used to be]

Here is a 279Bc


Here is your stamp with the 279Bc inserted for comparison

thanks for all of your input
i just got an email from someone who I am going to send some stamps to who is going to compare to his color chart
this stamps color is not as it appears here
it seems that I have many color questions about my collection
i will tell you all about my finding

i hope you all do not mind all of my questions
i have learned long ago that you will not find out things unless you ask

thanks

I've been looking at this stamp for a while and it definitely looks to be a type IV from the scan not completly sure on the ear dots but every thing else is there the colour to me from the scan looks like a light carmine not Rose colour but if that is the case that just means it's a 279bf not a bc and that is a much rarer stamp

i just looked into mt scotts that is from 2007 and only see the 279Bf as a reddish carmine
the only big reason that I ask about this stamp is because it was a mnh copy
i was trying to adjust the color but it did not show the color better
it is I lighter color than shows here

you said it was not common
can you tell me what a mnh copy is listed ?

thanks

The diversity of color on the 2 cent first Bureau issues is unmatched in U.S. philately. They were issued in colors from pink to dark red and lake to vermilion. I have collected over 450 different colors/shades/hues and I still find great subjectivity in color discrimination. With a production run of 8 years and 20-25 billion copies color variation can be a major collection within itself.

The page I was looking at the bf is a carmine and there are only used listed
This is the page
http://www.theswedishtiger.com/279B-scotts.html

#279Bf is $27.50 for MNH in the 2010 Scott standard WW catalog.

Scott Specialized only lists colors as carmine and reddish carmine. In fact, the carmine shade ranges from light carmine to deep carmine.
Edit: Should have specified that these colors are for 279Bf

Just looked on 1847usa and they are showing a pink??

279B 7/6/1899 12 billion double-line Type IV; red, light red, deep red; double transfer; triple transfer; upper right triangle not shaded 
279Bc rose carmine 3/30/1899 double-line Type IV; rose carmine, bright carmine rose
279Bd orange red 6/8/1900 D/L horiz. Type IV; pale to dark  to deep orange red
279Bd orange red vertical wmk. D/L vert. Type IV; orange red (as 279Bd); the vertical watermark was an error
279B carmine 11/18/1897 double-line Type IV; carmine, reddish carmine
279B pink 12/1/1897 double-line Type IV; pink, bright pink
279B vermilion 2/27/1899 double-line Type IV; vermilion, pale vermilion
279B brownish orange double-line Type IV; brown orange - Type IV

So as I said earlyer it definiently looks like it's a type IV

Russ makes an important point.

#279Bf is listed as carmine in both the US standard WW catalog and the US Specialized. However, there is a minor color shade variety listed as reddish carmine in the 2008 US Specialized. This minor color shade variety is NOT assigned a separate minor catalog number.

In the 2008 US Specialized, the carmine and the reddish carmine variety have the same catalog values.