1c 1857 #7 And 9

Got these today..
I believe the 7 is a type II and the 9 is position 57R?
Russ?
US #7



US #9

SV, First stamp is Type II (Scott 7) second is Type IV (Scott 9) recut once on top and once on bottom. The right margin is cut a little close but I see what may be a 57R plate mark there. You may want to look closely at that area to see if that is the edge of the siderographers mark, The recut ties on the bottom and top also seem to match. It is a little hard to tell but 57R1L is very likely. With good mag or a high res scan you can probably confirm if it is 57R.

Nice stamps overall. Margins on both are wide enough to show almost complete design elements. Top and/or bottom are almost always close. Looks like these will fit nicely in your collection.

Here is a link to the plating marks for 57R
http://www.slingshotvenus.com/Frank...inFrame.html
Scoll left side and Click 57R1L

Thanks Russ.

Thanks, Russ, for the slingshotvenus link (he said a little sarcastically). Now I'll be spending the rest of the night trying to figure out what plates my 9 and 24 come from!

otto big tip for plating Type IV (Scott 9 or Scott 23) first determine the type of recuts. That helps to narrow it down, if you know how it is recut I can give a list of possible positions.

otto, The Type V (Scott 24) you posted on the other thread is a Relief D. It would be on Plates 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 in Rows 4 and 8 only. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the tips, Russ. The nine is recut once top once bottom, I think (shown below). Don't tell me too much, I want to figure this out! I love a good puzzle.

And I take it the the blue 1cs are your thing?



Edited to have ginormous image.

Otto, they are my favorite issue, the most complex U.S. stamp. The 9 is recut once on top and once on bottom. Could you post a larger scan. The left side of the portrait oval looks interesting. There are 113 positions that are recut once on top and once on bottom, 28 of these positions are double transfer. This may be a double transfer.

I updated the photo. I scan 'em in at 1200, because, well, I'm working on an obsession here.

I can definitely understand the appeal of the blues. I'm developing a thing for the 1851-7 3c Washingtons as well.

otto, your stamp is clearly a double transfer on the left side it is position 82L1L. Very nice stamp.
Edit: It is a Relief B.

Wow! That's really cool. Thanks!

You are welcome. But you better watch out this issue can become addictive!