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368 Paste-Up Pair(S)?!?

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Posted 09/09/2011   10:04 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Rileysan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The title alone should get knees jerking all over the place. Unless I have missed something, there is no such thing. However, I came across this online auction for a "USA Sc 368, paste-up strips of four, VF NH CV 875$". I have contacted the seller with my thoughts on his auction :)

For your enjoyment ...



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Posted 09/09/2011   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I think I can get rich now! What a scam!
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Posted 09/09/2011   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Read down below.
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Posted 09/09/2011   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thhe 368 was issued as both 368H and 368V in imperforated coil rolls of both 500 and 1000. These were hand wound coils which would have been pasted-up and stripped by entire sheets into 20 coils. The top and bottom would be parallel in all 20 strips.
The coils were normally provided to private perf manufacturers that did not strip their own.

The strip shown IS NOT GOVERNMENT ISSUE!
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Posted 09/09/2011   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aha, now I know why I could not find anything on this. Russ you are a wealth of information to have. I think I just need a better philatelic library.
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The flat plate imperforate coils are liste in Scott Specialized right after the vending and affixing perfs section
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Went back and now I see it. Thanks.
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:29 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ, just for clarification, were these horizontal, vertical, or both?

Brian
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brian, issued as both 368V (vertical) and 368H (horizontal)
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Posted 09/09/2011   12:35 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nevermind, I just found the section in Scott. 368H for horizontal, 368V for vertical.

Russ, I'd be interested in learning more about paste-up stamps. Have any information in your library?

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You beat me to the answer again!
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Edited by Rileysan - 09/09/2011 12:36 pm
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Posted 09/09/2011   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brian, paste-ups was used for 2 purposes; joining flat plate stamps to make coils of 500 or 1000 and joining partial sheets to make full sheets(rarely). The coil paste-ups were a lap joint either leading or trailing.

A small portion of the margin was left on the top/left (leading) or bottom/right (trailing) Note that top-bottom is horizontal perf, left-right is vertical perfs. The adhesive gum from the one stamp is used to adhere it to the lap.

The BEP actually made a few special plates for auto-wound coils that might help.


Above is the plate proof for 1 cent coils Plate 6581


The auto-wound coil sheets were pasted-up and then split into half sheets in this case on the guideline in the center of the 9mm gutter.


These sheets also were marked "COIL STAMPS" in left and right margins. Some plate stamps also had these markings (4-1cent and 4-2cent plates)


These plates also had guidelines for the lap (trailing)
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Posted 09/09/2011   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd buy that. She's a beaut!

edit: just to clarify~ that pane of green Washington's
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 09/09/2011 1:49 pm
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Posted 09/09/2011   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ, where on Earth do you find all these pictures of the full sheets and the ones showing the cut lines ?
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Posted 09/09/2011   4:40 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think Russ has perfected HG Wells' time machine and has dedicated his life to going back and recording everything related to US philately. I've previously asked Russ if he's a member of any expert committees.

Well, Russ? You said 'no'. I'd like to know why not?!?
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Posted 09/09/2011   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The National Postal Museum has scans of many of the certified plate proofs.
Edit: here is the link
http://arago.si.edu/flash/?tid=2027477|s1=1
click search in upper right and enter "certified plate proof"
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Edited by Russ - 09/09/2011 5:04 pm
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Posted 09/09/2011   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ should be on an expert committee.
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