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Scott #557 Line Of 4 Imperf Top 10 Perf Verticle

 
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Posted 02/24/2012   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ffejy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a line of 4 #557 that is imperforate at the top and 10 perf vertically and a verticle line in the middle. Can anyone tell me anything about it? Thanks.

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Posted 02/24/2012   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell if it's truly a Horizontal imperf or a scissor job. The centering appears to be off considerably. Also, there is something else happening there as the 2 right Stamps have a higher frame than the left 2. Perhaps coil waste ? Can you scan the back ?
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Edited by stallzer - 02/24/2012 4:15 pm
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Posted 02/24/2012   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ffejy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a pic of the back. I'm new to this stamp thing so you will have to be patient with me. You can see the bottoms of two stamps at the top of the stamps on the first pic on the left which leads me to believe it's imperforate.

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Edited by ffejy - 02/24/2012 4:25 pm
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Posted 02/24/2012   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 1st thought was that it's a paste up strip of coils but I can't see the back image that well. It does look strange...

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Posted 02/24/2012   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's the term I was looking for, Paste up ! I also just noticed that there is a joint line in the middle.
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Edited by stallzer - 02/24/2012 4:49 pm
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Posted 02/24/2012   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a Scott 602 line strip of 4. The mis-alignment between the 2 stamps on the left (from one plate) and the 2 stamps on the right (from another plate) is due to poor plate placement. This mis-allignment appears to be about 1.5mm which is about the greatest amount that the rotary press woudl tolerate.
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Posted 02/24/2012   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are some additional examples of this type of misalignment at https://goscf.com/t/16808#16808

Yours is quite interesting!

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Posted 02/24/2012   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ffejy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I apologize for the poor pic of the backside but I'm using a cheap camera. What exactly is a paste up? Thanks to everyone for your comments.
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Posted 02/24/2012   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are rotary press and would not have a paste up. They did occasionally break and have a splice.

ffejy, a paste-up was used for joining flat plate coil strips of 20 together to form the rolls of 500 or 1000.


You can see the paste-up to the rigt of the perforations (Scott 441).


Government splice (Scott 722)
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Posted 02/24/2012   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a paste-up. A paste-up pair is where the end stamps of two coils are joined together with a splicing tape. [OK, Russ already explained it better and showed pics while I was typing.]

As Russ noted, it is simply misalignment of the ends of the rotary plate. The plate is curved, and where the ends meet forms the joint line. Sometimes the ends don't meet perfectly, so you see a vertical displacement -- in your example, the displacement is more pronounced.

A nice example, thanks for posting the pic!

This also happens sometimes on modern coils as well. If anyone collects tagging anomalies, you can also find the same type of vertical displacement on coil stamps that are block-tagged. On some coil stamps that were overall tagged (not prephosphored), I have also found tagging "gaps". Funny things often happen at the joints!

Meanwhile, it looks like some silverfish were hungry for your Teddy stamps!
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Edited by khj - 02/24/2012 11:29 pm
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Posted 02/25/2012   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ffejy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After reading your explanations of paste ups, I checked mine and they are not paste ups. Thank you all for the schooling.
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Posted 02/25/2012   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Footballphilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep khj is right! Those holes are from silverfish.
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