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Posted 07/14/2014   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the Scott 1897 Omnibus on the left is an EFO- but is it an E, F or O.

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Posted 07/14/2014   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From where I am looking at them all three stamps are in the same category. All three are poorly centered. The one on the left is too low, the pair on the right is too high and too much to the left.

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Posted 07/14/2014   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter4522, thanks for the info.
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Posted 07/14/2014   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampfan9, I was not quite awake when I answered your question. Also, I was watching the Tour the France and I should not try to do two things at once.
There are a couple of flyspecking niceties on your stamps. The most right-hand stamp has two 'oddities' on it. There is a small dot in the upper right hand corner. At 1 O'clock above the s of 1880's. It could be an LOM dot although it is not in a normal spot for it. And here you have to realize that these coils are not just collected in strips of two, but usually in longer strips. That way a position can be given to the stamp with the 'oddity'. Like in "2R", 2 positions to the right of the plate numbered stamp.
The second thing is a scratch (?) between two perfs in the middle of the stamp. Both of these could be Constant Plate Varieties, but that again is hard to tell without a plate number as reference!

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Posted 07/14/2014   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a note to indicate that the 1c Omnibus Coils are notorious for poor centering (both vertically and horizontally) as shown on this copy from my stockbook:

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Posted 07/14/2014   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Wt1. I should have mentioned that almost none of the Cottrell Transportation Coils are centered very well. What is worse, if one has a whole roll the first joint line may be right on the money, further down they are way off!
That is why some strips are very hard, if not impossible to find centered good or superb!

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Posted 07/23/2014   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add msfong to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very nice!
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Posted 07/23/2014   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampOCD to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
msfong , unless there is another one of you using that handle , I have bought a lot of stamps from you on ebay. I just want to say thank you. You give fast service and charge a reasonable price.
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Posted 07/23/2014   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a bummer, I was looking at my recently completed Transportation Coil series and I doubt three stamps have really attractive centering.
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Posted 07/29/2014   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What my collection lacks in quality is more than compensated for in quantity:
























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Posted 11/15/2014   7:41 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! This stamp series is one of the most interesting of modern US stamps. Lots of varieties! Does anyone have information on plate number varieties? I have several 25 cent bread wagons with 2 different shaped #2 plate numbers plus a few damaged #2s. Is there a demand for these? One two has a sloped base where the curve comes down to the base while the other looks like an upside down 5, a sharp drop. The damaged two has like both types of twos on one imprint.
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Posted 11/15/2014   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
3197zd, I have a list of eight (8) plate numbers on the plate 2 Bread Wagon that are different. This list was published in "Coil Line", the monthly publication of PNC3. So far I have been unsuccessful in locating the original, but you might give the website www.PNC3. org a try. With the exception of the last three years all issues of Coil Line are accessible to non-members.
Having said all this, I am a Transportation Coil nut. I have a specialized collection consisting of about 25 albums. I am very much interested in what you have found - could you maybe post some scans?

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Posted 11/15/2014   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add acanalizo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the PNC3 list of Transportation coils w/ plate#'s: Also listed in Scott Specialized Catalog of US.
PNC3 is a great organization to belong if one is really interested in US coils, see http://www.pnc3.org/

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Untagged [u]. GUM: -[Self-Adhesive - S/A], Water-Activated - W/A - Dull [d], Gloss [g], Low-Gloss [lg], Shiny [s].



1¢ Omnibus
1897 1 2 3 4 5 6
2225 1 [bk] 2 [bk]
2225a 3 [pp][s]
2225b 2 [u][d] 3 [u][d] 3 [u][s] 3 [u][lg]
2¢ Locomotive 1897A 2 [bk] 3 [bk] 4 [bk] 6 [bk] 8 [bk][u] 10 [bk]
2226 1 [bk]
2226a 2 [u][d] 2 [u][s]
3¢ Handcar 1898 1 2 3 4
3¢ Conestoga 2252 1 [bk] 2 [d] 3 [u][d] 3 [u][s] 5 [u] 6 [u][s]
3.4¢ School Bus 2123 1 2
2123A 1 2
4¢ Stagecoach 1898A 1 2 3 4 5 6
1898Ab 3 4 5 6
2228 1 [bk]
2228a 1 [oa]
4¢ Steam Carriage 2451 1 [oa]
2451b 1 [u]
4.9¢ Buckboard 2124 3 4
2124a 1 2 3 4 5 6
5¢ Motorcycle 1899 1 2 3 4
5¢ Milk Wagon 2253 1
5¢ Circus Wagon 2452 1 [oa]
2452a 1 [u][d] 2 [u][lg]
2452B A1 A2 A3
2452D S1 S2 S3
5¢ Canoe 2453 1 2 3
2454 S11 [s] S11 [g](?)
5.2¢ Sleigh 1900 1 2 3 5
1900a 1 2 3 4 5 6
5.3¢ Elevator 2254 1
5.5¢ Star Route Truck 2125 1
2125a 1 2
5.9¢ Bicycle 1901 3 4
1901a 3 4 5 6
6¢ Tricycle 2126 1
2126a 1 2
7.1¢ Tractor 2127 1
2127a 1
Zip+4 1
7.4¢ Baby Buggy 1902 2
1902a 2
7.6¢ Carreta 2255 1 2 3
8.3¢ Ambulance 2128 1 2
2128a 1 2 3 4
2231 1 2
8.4¢ Wheel Chair 2256 1 2 3
8.5¢ Tow Truck 2129 1
2129a 1 2
9.3¢ Mail Wagon 1903 1 2 3 4 5 6
1903a 1 2 3 4 5 6 8
10¢ Canal Boat 2257 1 [bk]
2257a 1 [oa][d] 4 [oa][s]
2257b 1 [ep] 2 [ep] 3 [ep] 4 [ep]
2257c 5 [pp][lg]
10¢ Tractor Trailer 2457 1
2458 11 22
10.1¢ Oil Wagon 2130 1
2130a 1 2 [black] 2 [red] 3
10.9¢ Hansom Cab 1904 1 2
1904a 1 2 3 4
11¢ Caboose 1905 1
1905a 1 2
11¢ Stutz Bearcat 2131 1 2 3 4
12¢ Stanley Steamer 2132 1 2
2132a 1 2
2132b 1
2132c 1 [u] 2 [u]
12.5¢ Pushcart 2133 1 2
2133a 1 2
13¢ Patrol Wagon 2258 1
13.2¢ Coal Car 2259 1 2
14¢ Iceboat 2134 1 2 3 4
2134b 2
15¢ Tugboat 2260 1 2 [bk]
2260a 2 [oa]
16.7¢ Popcorn Wagon 2261 1 2
17¢ Electric Auto 1906 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1906a type A 3 4 5 6 7
type B 3 4 5 6
type AB 3 4 5 6 7
type BA 3 4 5 6
type C 1 2 3 4 5 7
17¢ Dog Sled 2135 2
17.5¢ Racing Car 2262 1
2262a 1
18¢ Surrey 1907 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18
20¢ Fire Pumper 1908 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16
20¢ Cable Car 2263 1 2 [bk]
2263a 2 [oa]
20¢ Cog Railway 2463 1 2
20.5¢ Fire Engine 2264 1
21¢ Railway Mail Car 2265 1 2
23¢ Lunch Wagon 2464 2 [d] 3 [sp](?) 3 [ep][d] 3 [ep][s] 4 [ep][s] 5 [ep][s]
24.1¢ Tandem Bike 2266 1
25¢ Bread Wagon 2136 1 2 3 4 5
32¢ Ferry Boat 2466 2 [s] 3 [s] 3 [lg] 4 [s] 4 [lg] 5 [s] 5 [lg]
$1 Sea Plane 2468 1 [oa] 3 [s] 3 [lg]
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