Your second stamp is one of two stamps - 70 or 78 - but the faded color makes it impossible for me to tell.
You mentioned wanting to send these off for expertizing, but I would advise against it. Although the catalogue value for these two items is high (in sound, very fine condition), they are both in really rough shape. Expertizing would cost more than the retail value.
As a pair, if posted on
ebay, they might bring $10-$15.
Cheers!
Brian