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Posted 03/09/2015   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi guys...Bought about 200 American stamps at the stamp club auction tonight...Lots of old ones to check, but this one caught my eye..Can anyone help identify it..Thanks.

Robert


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Posted 03/09/2015   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Design R14, Scott #R152. Used value as of the 2006 Scott Specialized Catalogu is $32.50 in very fine condition.

Check to make sure that it has watermarked paper with the watermark looking the the typical double line watermark that reads USIR instead of USPS.

The Scott catalog values for unused specimens is identical at $0.25 for unused examples on both silk paper and USIR watermarked paper. It only gives used values for the USIR watermarked paper.

To me, the cancel on your stamp appears genuine and has aged appropriately.
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Posted 03/09/2015   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Historical DNA Collector...Is this the SILK paper you are referring to..??


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Posted 03/09/2015   10:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it is silk paper. The revenues have the silk threwn on the paper.
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HDNAC has misread the catalog. All the pricing for the varieties of 152 is for "used" with the various papers in different columns.

You have a R152a, catalog value 0.45 in 2011. It is on silk paper, no need to check watermark.
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Posted 03/09/2015   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good question. I'm not an expert of identifying revenue stamps by any means. Regardless of paper appearance, does it have a USIR watermark.

Edit: Those much more informed than I have responded. I defer to them and thank them for providing accurate information.
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Posted 03/09/2015   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys...Love the hand cancel on stamps.
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Posted 03/09/2015   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a rouletted version of this stamp, that is the one that cats $32.50. These stamps were issued by ABNCO (silk and probably some watermarked), NBNCO (silk and probably some watermarked), and the BEP (watermarked only). There were approx. 880,000,000 issued of all the types.
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Posted 03/09/2015   10:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, I did misread the catalogue. I see the distinction now. Thanks.
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Posted 03/09/2015   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp is a very nice and inexpensive way to have an example of silk paper, used by the millions on checks.
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I have a few of these and always thought they was a very handsome stamp. Congrats.

I know that there isn't but the back of this stamp has an illusion of a grill remnant dont it? Look in the LL quadrant once and you'll see what I mean.
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Posted 03/11/2015   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the rouletted version:




And one I've never been sure of:




Any information or opinions on the second one would be appreciated.
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Posted 03/11/2015   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are known imperforate, and this one might well be genuine but there is no absolutely positive way to prove it.
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Posted 03/11/2015   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, rev. I know that Scott lists an imperforate version, but only as a pair. So I guess this single will remain an interesting but uncertain piece of my 19th century revenue collection.
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Posted 03/12/2015   08:43 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
R152 can frequently be found with freakishly large margins, so as Bart says, an imperf single cannot stand on its own regardless of appearance.
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