Scott #64A - Pigeon Blood Pink?

I can tell a Pigeon Blood Pink in person with relative ease; they have a rather distinct bluish cast to them. Once you've seen a couple of real ones in person they actually stand out.

Bill, that's very interesting! I didn't know about the Pigeon Blood Pinks having a bluish cast to them. That certainly helps! Thank you for your input!

Mizar, give this a read: http://chronicle.uspcs.org/PDF/Chro...44/10827.pdf

Particularly pay attention to note #4 and figures 3 and 4 concerning the pinkish shades of 1863. The contrast of the area under the upper left "3" to the adjacent lattice work is found on many of the shades, but is a requisite for any of the "pinks" (i.e. 64, 64a, and 64b). Your stamp does not display that requisite.

It's still a good looking stamp though. Cheers!

Pillar, thank you for that. I'm not saying that you're wrong, of course, but just for clarity, please explain about the "contrast" requisite a little bit. The article might have been clearer to me if an actual photo of the stamp used as the example was shown. Drawn illustrations of stamps often leaves much to be desired. Thanks.

Hello Mizar,
I hope this helps.
Ryan

Hello Ryan,
Excellent! It certainly does help. Well done. Thanks!
James

Here's the full image for more context:



http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/...6brbffkd.jpg

For full resolution, follow the link then look to the right for cogwheel icon "More options", then click "Download". Then you can open it in your favorite image viewing or editing program. It's color calibrated and made so that they appear very close to what they would in real life, assuming your monitor is decently setup.

Ryan,
That's really helpful! What dpi did you use to make the scan(s)? I may have to make changes, when I scan stamps in the future.

James

Oops, the method of linking has changed or I made an error. Follow the added link. That image is 600dpi. It's hosted on a site other than here at SCF. Image uploads here are limited to 200kB. For single stamps that limit is pretty good, for full detail of covers or like my full image, an outside host needs to be used.

I scan at 1200dpi for my personal use but scan at higher resolutions for things like re-entries or the minute detail needed for things like certain W/F identifications. For posting here I decrease the file size of whatever dpi that I scanned at down to the 200kB limit.

I've been scanning my stamps at 600 dpi, but 1200+ sounds like it should do a better job. Thanks.

Hey, I recognize a few of those!
IIRC, the pink is the Lexington copy I had expertizing last week....and the pinkish rose is the same stamp I posted in this thread earlier.....and the brick red on the top right, is a good example of the experts not agreeing. I bought it from Mike McClung and Jack Daley didn't agree it was Brick Red.....
Ray

Nice! I brought it into Photoshop and up-rezzed it to 1200, and it's doing fine filling a pair of 24 inch screens. (Except a couple of images are not as well focused as those around them, [upper layer, images 4 and 7 from right] so I assume this is a composite from harvested pics and not all from the same scanner. Is that right?)

Nice array of the pink side of the range, but could you tell us which of these is the base shade of "rose" without qualifiers? I miss the site that had the whole array of named colors and should have downloaded the whole thing. One of the two experts Ray mentioned had that up for a while.

Hey Ray! You're correct about all 3 of them.

essayk, thanks. I quickly threw this image together and will someday create a better version of it with more examples and all of the shades named. A few are out of focus due to me not putting weight on the scanner lid that was chock full of covers. The left 2/3 of the top row were all taken together at the same time, look for the left perf edges overlapping. All of the other images are pieced in from several scans all on the same scanner where I calibrated each one from the color calibration target being in the same scan.

I've been working with Jack Daley (3cent1861.com) on my scanner based color identification project. I'm also helping him revive his site here on SCF thanks in part to Bobby who has volunteered to host Jack's site. It will be back online, but it's going to be a while due to Jack's very limited time availability. He picked out one of my stamps as a very good example of the standard rose of 1862. Unfortunately it is not in the image above and is still in his hands. For now, the stamp just to the right of the "65 Lilac Rose" is similar to my "Standard Rose"

It seems that this is your first time seeing this image. You might enjoy the thread that it debuted in: https://goscf.com/t/42317

essayK, here is an ebay auction that has the most beautiful rose I've seen. I've always thought of buying the cover-- it's after all a Nashville cover, and since I work in Nashville, I probably should buy it: eBay# 311403200073

I suppose it could be intense rose or bright rose, but don't think so. Just a beautiful shade and stamp.....

Enjoy, Ray

Just thought I'd throw these up to show some other examples of the range in shades of the colors for the issue. Ray, glad to here from you.