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#63 Or 73 Ask Of Laid Paper

 
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Posted 10/20/2015   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dittrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hallo, I have tree stamp. Is right stamp laid paper?





full right stamp
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Posted 10/20/2015   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rwoodennickel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am no expert, but it does not appear to be laid paper.If you view it at an angle in good light, it will be easier to see. Hard to tell from flat images. It might show in watermark fluid. Here is link to post explaining ribbed and laid paper.
https://goscf.com/t/45366&SearchTerms=laid,paper
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Posted 10/20/2015   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have check under light? I mine, it is shades to show?







the effect, I have by 2˘ Jackson for right stamp.





under light





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Posted 10/21/2015   10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rwoodennickel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see the ribbing in the paper now. You should wait to see if someone with more experience can give you a better answer. You can also search this forum for other posts pertaining to the laid paper variety.
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Posted 10/21/2015   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a certified example of the 1861 1c on vertically laid paper which I cannot locate at the moment. When I do I will return to this thread with illustrated comment.

I also have the 1861 3c on vertically laid paper, which might be used for comparison too, but I would rather work with the 1c so you can see the color shade of the printing.

One point to make here, however, is that laid lines in machine-made wove paper and the corrugations we call "ribbing" should not be thought of as the same thing. They originate by different processes.
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Posted 10/22/2015   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hallo essayk, the 1c is for me not good ripped paper. the 2c is for me ripped but if this laid paper?

equal pressed by drying







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Posted 10/27/2015   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not "ripped," dittrich, ribbed. But ribbed paper, which is a beast to photograph, is not laid paper, which is what the title of the thread asked about. #63 and #73 are noted for laid paper, but it is not easily seen even when you have one. I found my certified example, but I am still trying to get a good photo.

I see the corrugations on your #73 and they do not have the same characteristics as the laid lines in real laid paper. The actual lines are not corrugations at all, but more like a kind of watermark. Indeed, it is a matter of some mystery just how laid lines might appear on machine-made wove paper if it is not impressed by a Dandy roll as if it were a watermark.

I am still working on getting a picture for you.
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Edited by essayk - 10/27/2015 09:32 am
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Posted 10/27/2015   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hallo, essayk thanks for your help.

I can not show the laid lines as watermark.
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Posted 10/27/2015   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of the characteristics of laid lines is that they are visible on the stamp without the use of watermark fluid. But weak lines are hard to see no matter what. That is how these lines are for the stamps series 1861.
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Posted 10/27/2015   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see only rucked-up photograph





the paper to wave over and over. I haven't got a clue. Is fake stamp

I to resign
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